Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins)

Paintrain · 11-21-2011, 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think you made some good points, although I think EVERYONE f*cked up in that Witten TD. And you are giving Hall a lot of credit, there was no way in hell he or any DB stops Witten.

My only issue with the Hall criticism is that:

a.) People act like he is the only thing wrong with the team (a.k.a. the Jason Campbell effect)

b.) A lot of the people that complain about him, do so because they don't "like" him (which is pretty childish if you ask me)

As I've said before, any issue with the defense is minor compared to the leaps and bounds that this team has to do on to fix the offense. Even yesterday when the offense played well, they still were very inept during the first quarter and failed miserably at putting the team in a better position to kick the field goal in OT.

I've gone from the Hall camp to being very anti-Hall.. His technique is AWFUL. How many times have we seen him spun around completely by a single move? Philly game, Miami game, Dallas game off the top of my head he was turned around on a simple out move. On the Bryant TD, he jumped a route on a poorly run route and no pump fake, getting himself out of position to make a play on the ball and made for an easy TD pass.

He's got some serious technique issues he needs to correct in a hurry. No he's not to blame for all of our woes but for a playmaker, a captain and one who is our 'best' CB, he is failing miserably in 2011.

Ruhskins · 11-21-2011, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Paintrain

I've gone from the Hall camp to being very anti-Hall.. His technique is AWFUL. How many times have we seen him spun around completely by a single move? Philly game, Miami game, Dallas game off the top of my head he was turned around on a simple out move. On the Bryant TD, he jumped a route on a poorly run route and no pump fake, getting himself out of position to make a play on the ball and made for an easy TD pass.

He's got some serious technique issues he needs to correct in a hurry. No he's not to blame for all of our woes but for a playmaker, a captain and one who is our 'best' CB, he is failing miserably in 2011.

I've never been in the Hall camp. I've always seen him as a CB with a lot of flaws, a high-risk/high-reward, although he hasn't even been that this year.

SirClintonPortis · 11-21-2011, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

**** you and your logic pal!! LET US HATTERS HAT!!

So-called "stats"--they are better described as data logs--are hardly comprehensive. Hence, using them to prove absolutes rather than as a mere guide is rather...naive unless you don't have any other evidence to go by. So keep on hatting!!!!

SirClintonPortis · 11-21-2011, 04:22 PM

So, my memory has been triggered and I realized that the Texans won because our choking kicker kicked a beauty WIDE RIGHT last year and cost us 7-9 record (and a sexy trade down in the draft). Same spot. Same situation. Only thing different is that Gano wasn't iced by those 'Boys.

**** Gano. Two wins down the ****ing toilet because of him(yes, I know about the draft position, yes, I'm happy with Kerrigan. But I can't help myself). And if and when our team does get better and we're duking out a tough battle in which the score is just as close, do you really want to trot the punk loser out there? He's got a very generous extended audition to be a franchise kicker, and he's proven only that he's a Suisham with a bigger leg. The only thing he's helped us with is getting a potential franchise pass rusher and a potential franchise QB.

SmootSmack · 11-21-2011, 04:31 PM

Thank goodness you're not serious SCP

SirClintonPortis · 11-21-2011, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Thank goodness you're not serious SCP

Ummm, I'm not quite sure what exactly I'm not serious about?

skinsfan69 · 11-21-2011, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think you made some good points, although I think EVERYONE f*cked up in that Witten TD. And you are giving Hall a lot of credit, there was no way in hell he or any DB stops Witten.

My only issue with the Hall criticism is that:

a.) People act like he is the only thing wrong with the team (a.k.a. the Jason Campbell effect)

b.) A lot of the people that complain about him, do so because they don't "like" him (which is pretty childish if you ask me)

As I've said before, any issue with the defense is minor compared to the leaps and bounds that this team has to do on to fix the offense. Even yesterday when the offense played well, they still were very inept during the first quarter and failed miserably at putting the team in a better position to kick the field goal in OT.

And why don't people like him? Cause he can't stop running his damn mouth. He's always talking smack to other players, to coaches to whom ever will listen to his sorry ass. The reality is he just needs to STFU cause his game can't back up his mouth. That's why fans don't like him. Nothing chilldish about that.

SmootSmack · 11-21-2011, 04:44 PM

Oh I see. So I guess you forgot about Gano's 3 GW field goals in OT last year. At least two of which were just under 50 yards long.

skinsfan69 · 11-21-2011, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I just think we're focusing on the wrong things if we're picking apart Rak's game. We've got bigger problems that need to be addressed.

If he's going to be a top pass rusher then he's gotta do it in the big games. If he can sack Romo once or twice then maybe the games's over.

skinsfan69 · 11-21-2011, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

Or maybe if we could just score more TDs rather than having to rely on a 52 yarder to win...

True.

skinsfan69 · 11-21-2011, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Makes no sense to just cut Hall. As frustrating as he is, he is our best CB. So if anything, you see if you can trade him for anything but to just outright cut him makes no sense

Honestly, I don't think he's any better at covering then Brian Westbrook. He just has a bigger contract.

skinsfan69 · 11-21-2011, 04:54 PM

I've also got some smack for Tashard Choice. He has an 8 yard run and gets up and starts yelling at the Dallas sideline like he just broke Walter Payton's record. What an idiot. It's one 8 yard run you stupid fool. Go back to the huddle and be lucky that anyone picked up your sorry ass. So tired of that crap. Shanahan handles RB's like John Gruden handles QB's. He falls in love with a different guy every other week. I hope we cut his ass. Shoudn't be picking up Cowboy rejects anyway. This crap would never have happened in the old days.

Glasgow Celtic · 11-21-2011, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I've also got some smack for Tashard Choice. He has an 8 yard run and gets up and starts yelling at the Dallas sideline like he just broke Walter Payton's record. What an idiot. It's one 8 yard run you stupid fool. Go back to the huddle and be lucky that anyone picked up your sorry ass. So tired of that crap. Shanahan handles RB's like John Gruden handles QB's. He falls in love with a different guy every other week. I hope we cut his ass. Shoudn't be picking up Cowboy rejects anyway. This crap would never have happened in the old days.

Agree 100%
We should never rehome their castoffs

SirClintonPortis · 11-21-2011, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Oh I see. So I guess you forgot about Gano's 3 GW field goals in OT last year. At least two of which were just under 50 yards long.

SmootSmack has owned me yet again. Indeed I forgot.

Even so, his glorious moments are still tempered by his gaffes, such as that kick in Houston and his missed XP.

Glasgow Celtic · 11-21-2011, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

Brian Orakpo. When he wasn't being outright stuffed by Doug Free, he was allowing Tony Romo to scramble to the left, and then we get burned by sandlot football with Romo and friends.

Gano - **** you. My Suisham sense is tingling. Cut his ass. Cut him now. Choking against the Dallas Cowboys is a crime. A ****ING CRIME. Real Redskins do not choke against the Dallas Cowboys.

Again agree REAL Redskins dont choke against the huns

11-21-2011, 04:31 PM	#155
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,223	Thank goodness you're not serious SCP __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-21-2011, 04:44 PM	#158
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,223	Oh I see. So I guess you forgot about Gano's 3 GW field goals in OT last year. At least two of which were just under 50 yards long. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

11-21-2011, 04:54 PM	#162
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,126	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Cowboys at Redskins) I've also got some smack for Tashard Choice. He has an 8 yard run and gets up and starts yelling at the Dallas sideline like he just broke Walter Payton's record. What an idiot. It's one 8 yard run you stupid fool. Go back to the huddle and be lucky that anyone picked up your sorry ass. So tired of that crap. Shanahan handles RB's like John Gruden handles QB's. He falls in love with a different guy every other week. I hope we cut his ass. Shoudn't be picking up Cowboy rejects anyway. This crap would never have happened in the old days.

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