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Old 11-21-2011, 08:49 AM   #76
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Orakpo - I mean really. What happened to you dude? Were you even out on the field today or were we just playing with 10 guys?
Yeah, disappointed in his game of late. We lost this game in large part due to a lack of qb pressure when it counted. I know we got 4 sacks & they hadn't given up a sack in 2 weeks prior, but a couple of those were coverage sacks. The secondary did its job on most of those 3rd down plays, but Romo was able to get out of the pocket & make a play w/out much pressure.
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I think a smackdown is in order for the Kyle Shanahan bashers because they think he should call more running plays. Of the 24 runs yesterday, 10 went for negative yardage. Just go back and look at the game again if you're not convinced. You want them to run the ball more, but they just can't. It's that simple, and yesterday proved it.
I can't remember who said it, but a few weeks back a defender from another team said they knew when the skins were running. Didn't it really seem that way yesterday too? I mean is it just coincidence that D linemen ended up in the backfield 10+ times?

I would say the jury is still out on Kyle, if Defenses are seeing on film tendencies of how he runs the ball, that's on Kyle. I think he has so few running plays that the D easily sees them & they must be doing something in formations that tips the defense.
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Old 11-21-2011, 08:56 AM   #78
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I can't remember who said it, but a few weeks back a defender from another team said they knew when the skins were running. Didn't it really seem that way yesterday too? I mean is it just coincidence that D linemen ended up in the backfield 10+ times?

I would say the jury is still out on Kyle, if Defenses are seeing on film tendencies of how he runs the ball, that's on Kyle. I think he has so few running plays that the D easily sees them & they must be doing something in formations that tips the defense.
Our running game is AWFUL. It seems that we only run the same one or two plays and it is obviously not working. Someone needs to be held accountable for this, I thought Shanahan was famous for making any scrub QB a 1,000 yard rusher.
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Mike Shannahan - for not going for the 2 point conversion. A 3-6 team should take that opportunity.

Mike Shannahan - for having trust in Gano to make any field goal that is important (I'm an FSU fan, so both games my teams lost this week were because FSU kickers have no testicular fortitude)

Gano - for having no guts, make the damn kick. FML!
I really wanted to see them go for 2 after the TD, like you said, we are 3-6 why not do it?

Orakpo will be fine, the Skins just need to get a lead so he pin his ears back and get after the Qb.
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Our running game is AWFUL. It seems that we only run the same one or two plays and it is obviously not working. Someone needs to be held accountable for this, I thought Shanahan was famous for making any scrub QB a 1,000 yard rusher.


ZBS doesn't do very well when the OL has little time to gel together and "work as one". Our vet backups aren't too hot either.
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Our running game is AWFUL. It seems that we only run the same one or two plays and it is obviously not working. Someone needs to be held accountable for this, I thought Shanahan was famous for making any scrub QB a 1,000 yard rusher.
Our run game just reminds me too much of Spurrier, who only had a couple running plays he would call all game. It was almost as if they are sometimes thrown in their just to show the defense some balance, but the defense often seems to be playing for it.

In fairness, when it's worked, e.g. the Rams, Kyle went back to it & pounded the ball. Also, our wideouts just don't scare anyone, so everyone on D can play closer to the line. I also actually like the reverse, but not twice in a row!
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ZBS doesn't do very well when the OL has little time to gel together and "work as one". Our vet backups aren't too hot either.
Good point, when I saw 74 in there I was like 'who the hell is that.' then I heard the name on a bogus holding call, realized it was polumbus, didn't they sign him just a few weeks ago?
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I can't remember who said it, but a few weeks back a defender from another team said they knew when the skins were running. Didn't it really seem that way yesterday too? I mean is it just coincidence that D linemen ended up in the backfield 10+ times?

I would say the jury is still out on Kyle, if Defenses are seeing on film tendencies of how he runs the ball, that's on Kyle. I think he has so few running plays that the D easily sees them & they must be doing something in formations that tips the defense.
Probably something they noticed in our personnel packages. Maybe it's the specific players he puts on the field or how we line up. Or even a subtlety in how players set before the snap.
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Old 11-21-2011, 09:18 AM   #84
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I really wanted to see them go for 2 after the TD, like you said, we are 3-6 why not do it?

Orakpo will be fine, the Skins just need to get a lead so he pin his ears back and get after the Qb.
He was in many "pin his ears back" situations on 3rd down. I don't want to be too critical of one of our best players, but it really seems his game hasn't progressed this year. He's got to learn some moves, some technique w/his hands to get free. Last year he was at least held like mad, I don't really see that much this year at all. He's not making any team afraid of him, no double or many chips on him even.

On one hand, our OLB combo seems set for years, on the other, they are not dominant by any means & don't get around the edge quick enough to make QBs hurry. Most of our sacks yesterday & this year were coverage sacks, we should've had more hurries yesterday.
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Gano should've made one of those two FGs. But at the same time, get in better field position.
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I think a smackdown is in order for the Kyle Shanahan bashers because they think he should call more running plays. Of the 24 runs yesterday, 10 went for negative yardage. Just go back and look at the game again if you're not convinced. You want them to run the ball more, but they just can't. It's that simple, and yesterday proved it.
We have no run game. I'm baffled at the fans calling for more run plays when it gets stuffed all the time. It something is not working you have to switch to what is working. I'm not sure why the runs not working though but I'm thinking lack of talent on the OL, lack of differently designed run plays, or lack of coaching the guys on blocking technique. and I'm thinking the it's the blocking technique. Chris Foester really didn't stand out as a top notch OL coach and the 49ers really didn't make a hard push to keep him, if I'm not mistaken I think they wanted him gone.

Perhaps I'm making too much out of coaching. perhaps there is only 2 ways to block and all the OL coaches know how to teach them so I'm probably making a bad point of view but the team does not look like it's blocking like the Denver Bronco's back when MS was in Denver. Atleast not to me.
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Injuries have blown up our OL, that's why we can't run.
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He was in many "pin his ears back" situations on 3rd down. I don't want to be too critical of one of our best players, but it really seems his game hasn't progressed this year. He's got to learn some moves, some technique w/his hands to get free. Last year he was at least held like mad, I don't really see that much this year at all. He's not making any team afraid of him, no double or many chips on him even.

On one hand, our OLB combo seems set for years, on the other, they are not dominant by any means & don't get around the edge quick enough to make QBs hurry. Most of our sacks yesterday & this year were coverage sacks, we should've had more hurries yesterday.
There were some third downs for sure where he should have been able to get in at the QB more often. I was referring (that's a strangely difficult word to spell) more to the entire year where we have been playing from behind and trying to explain his performance. I just don't want fans to start getting down on him too much, he does need to show some more progression but if people want to complain about someone there are certainly more deserving places to look on this team in my opinion.
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Injuries have blown up our OL, that's why we can't run.
I'll agree with you and that has been my arguement in regards to any QB finding success right now no matter who we brought in. But I'm still amazed at that fact the zone/cut blocking does not look like what Denver had and if I'm not mistaken someone else even made a point that the team is not really cut blocking much.

I'm just wondering if some of why we are not seeing the typical MS running game is because the team is not using the typical blocking scheme MS had in Denver?
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There were some third downs for sure where he should have been able to get in at the QB more often. I was referring (that's a strangely difficult word to spell) more to the entire year where we have been playing from behind and trying to explain his performance. I just don't want fans to start getting down on him too much, he does need to show some more progression but if people want to complain about someone there are certainly more deserving places to look on this team in my opinion.
understood, he's still a good OLB & seems to care about the team. I think he's become stagnant for whatever reason & the reaction on the WP here today shows that he's behind our expectations. I thought he would be nearly unstoppable this year 1 on 1.
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