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Old 01-26-2005, 12:34 PM   #91
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Here's what I found on RG for penalties

From the first Giants game:

Washington Redskins at 14:15
1-10-NYG 49 (14:15) 11-P.Ramsey pass to 80-L.Coles to NYG 47 for 2 yards (25-W.Allen).
2-8-NYG 47 (13:52) 11-P.Ramsey pass to 26-C.Portis to NYG 44 for 3 yards (25-W.Allen).
PENALTY on WAS-87-R.Gardner, Illegal Shift, 5 yards, enforced at NYG 47 - No Play.

Browns game:

Washington Redskins at 8:53
1-10-WAS 43 (8:53) 8-M.Brunell pass incomplete to 47-C.Cooley.
PENALTY on WAS-87-R.Gardner, Illegal Motion, 5 yards, enforced at WAS 43 - No Play.

2nd Philly game:

Washington Redskins at 2:56
1-10-WAS 38 (2:56) 26-C.Portis left end to WAS 42 for 4 yards (54-J.Trotter).
2-6-WAS 42 (2:22) 11-P.Ramsey pass to 26-C.Portis pushed ob at WAS 41 for -1 yards (50-M.Simoneau).
Timeout #2 by PHI at 02:13.
3-7-WAS 41 (2:13) 11-P.Ramsey pass to 80-L.Coles ran ob at PHI 45 for 14 yards. P8
1-10-PHI 45 (2:08) 11-P.Ramsey pass to 47-C.Cooley to PHI 40 for 5 yards (26-L.Sheppard).
Two-Minute Warning
2-5-PHI 40 (2:00) PENALTY on WAS-66-D.Dockery, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at PHI 40 - No Play.
2-10-PHI 45 (2:00) 11-P.Ramsey pass to 80-L.Coles to PHI 25 for 20 yards (26-L.Sheppard). P9
1-10-PHI 25 (1:14) 26-C.Portis left end ran ob at PHI 14 for 11 yards.
PENALTY on WAS-85-D.McCants, Offensive Holding, 10 yards, enforced at PHI 24.
1-19-PHI 34 (1:09) PENALTY on WAS-87-R.Gardner, False Start, 5 yards, enforced at PHI 34 - No Play.
1-24-PHI 39 (1:09) 11-P.Ramsey pass to 80-L.Coles to PHI 35 for 4 yards (54-J.Trotter).
Timeout #2 by WAS at 00:57.
2-20-PHI 35 (:57) 11-P.Ramsey pass to 87-R.Gardner to PHI 25 for 10 yards (26-L.Sheppard).
3-10-PHI 25 (:30) (No Huddle) 11-P.Ramsey pass incomplete to 47-C.Cooley.
4-10-PHI 25 (:24) 10-J.Hall 43 yard field goal is No Good, Wide Right, Center-71-E.Albright, Holder-19-T.Tupa.

2nd Dallas game:

Washington Redskins at 5:01
1-10-WAS 1 (5:01) 11-P.Ramsey pass to 87-R.Gardner to WAS 10 for 9 yards (30-L.Frazier; 31-Ro.Williams).
PENALTY on WAS-87-R.Gardner, Face Mask (5 Yards), 5 yards, enforced at WAS 10.
1-6-WAS 5 (4:07) 46-L.Betts up the middle to WAS 6 for 1 yard (59-D.Nguyen).
2-5-WAS 6 (3:46) 11-P.Ramsey pass to 87-R.Gardner to WAS 10 for 4 yards (30-L.Frazier).
3-1-WAS 10 (3:23) 11-P.Ramsey pass incomplete to 47-C.Cooley. Pass thrown left flat.
4-1-WAS 10 (3:19) 19-T.Tupa punts 36 yards to WAS 46, Center-71-E.Albright, out of bounds.

There could be more because I saw a few instances where there was no name attached to the penalty, and this was just a quick scan of all the game logs on NFL.com.

Names I saw frequently, Raymer, Dockery, Taylor and Ray Brown. Taylor mostly for unsportsmanlike conduct type stuff.
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From what I remember, those illegal motion penalties were typical ref BS and that facemask penalty I think was also very BS too.

I remember most of our penalties being on Ray Brown for false starts (especially in the red zone).
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"And I will never apologize for thinking that trading/cutting Portis, Coles, and/or LaVar is a good idea." This is why the skins wont trade for that punk. For another he has no respect for himself or team. Besides the Viks need defence and that is what the Viks will trade for along with a 1st rounder.
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Wow - Rod Gardner cost us 20 yards in penelties this season. I now know the reason for our record. Damn Rod Gardner! Also notice how many of those were after the snap, 0.
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so he commited a facemask before teh start...?

and people think moss has issues, weve got players grabbing masks presnap? lol. jp
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Okay, it wasn't after the play. Sorry for my wording. Illegal hands to the face happens all the time, someone drops their head or you slip.
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Yeah, and like I said, a lot of those were VERY questionable.
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Wow - Rod Gardner cost us 20 yards in penelties this season. I now know the reason for our record. Damn Rod Gardner! Also notice how many of those were after the snap, 0.
Like I said I just quickly scanned all the game logs, I could have missed some and there were quite a few with no names attached to the penalty.

Point is Rod does tend to committ some ill-advised penalties that seem to point to a lack of focus and concentration. Not just this year but over his entire career. Are you saying you haven't noticed this, Daseal?

Just seems kinda odd you're sticking up for Gardner. What has he done the last two years?? Not much if you ask me.
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Old 01-27-2005, 11:37 PM   #99
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i think out play calling has been a huge factor. Even spurrier ran screen plays ALL game long, and if he had a lead he would try and run the clock out in the second half and stop throwing the ball.
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