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Old 01-18-2005, 05:15 PM   #1
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kipers first mock draft

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says that kiper picks us taking braylon edwards at 9, and has mike williams going to the texans at 14 i believe. he says that edwards concentration improved and he cut back on his dropped balls. what u guys think.
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Old 01-18-2005, 05:16 PM   #2
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I'd prefer Williams but it might be worth it to take the chance on Edwards.
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Old 01-18-2005, 05:21 PM   #3
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The drops scare. I would rather trade down and get a WR and another pick.

Can you post the complete Kiper mock draft?
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Old 01-18-2005, 05:25 PM   #4
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I'd rather take M.Williams or trade down for more picks.

I'm not sold on either M.Williams or B.Edwards quite yet.
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Old 01-18-2005, 05:34 PM   #5
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I do not want them to pick a WR with their 1st pick. Trade down and pick a DE, center, big blocking TE, etc.....maybe even a DB in round 2 or 3 to bring up behind Harris (if Smoot leaves).
I think the WR situation will be taken care of in free agency. Honestly, I think we would be fine with the WR's we have, but an upgrade would be nice....and it appears that Gardner is as good as gone, pending a decent trade offer that is.
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Old 01-18-2005, 05:51 PM   #6
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I'm saying if we WERE to get a WR I would pick Williams. I would prefer to get a nice FA pickup in the offseason and use the pick on a DE.
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Old 01-18-2005, 05:54 PM   #7
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i dont know how to post insider. i can tell u that he has the niners taking alex smith, and dolphins taking benson. if someone tells me how to copy it ill post it
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Old 01-18-2005, 05:58 PM   #8
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Mel's Draft

1. San Francisco 49ers: Alex Smith (jr.), QB, Utah
A smart player who will pick up an NFL system quickly, Smith has good size, is mobile enough to hurt teams with his running ability and is also an efficient passer who can make all the necessary throws.

2. Miami Dolphins: Cedric Benson, RB, Texas
A strong, tough runner with good speed for his size, Benson would help fill the void left by the retirement of Ricky Williams. But there is speculation the Dolphins will attempt to fill their running back need through trade, perhaps for Buffalo's Travis Henry, so stay tuned.

3. Cleveland Browns: Aaron Rodgers (jr.), QB, California
Rodgers is a smart, accurate passer with a quick release. His arm strength is adequate and he is a better prospect at this point in his career than former Cal QB Kyle Boller, now the starter for the Baltimore Ravens.

4. Chicago Bears: Ronnie Brown, RB, Auburn
Perhaps the most complete back in the draft, Brown can carry or catch the ball with equal skill. He has size, instincts and quickness that allowed him to put up excellent numbers at the college level.

5. Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Carnell Wiliams, RB, Auburn
A creative, deceptive runner with tremendous natural skills. Williams can get tough yards inside despite lacking ideal size, a point illustrated by his 29 rushing TDs over the last two years.

6. Tennessee Titans: Adam Jones, CB, West Virginia
A good cover man who will also contribute as a kick returner, Jones has very good closing speed and is a willing tackler in run support. That may be his most important quality with the NFL hurting pass defenses by focusing on downfield infractions by defensive backs.

7. Oakland Raiders: Dan Cody, DE, Oklahoma
A fiery, intense player who always goes all-out, Cody is similar to former NFL standout Kevin Greene in his ability to play on his feet as an outside linebacker, or in a three-point stance as a defensive end.

8. Arizona Cardinals: Travis Johnson, DT, Florida State
Johnson improved his stock immensely this year. He ties up offensive linemen and is able to gain penetration against the run as well as collapse the pocket in passing situations.

9. Washington Redskins: Braylon Edwards, WR, Michigan
Edwards has the size, speed and athleticism to take over games, and he did that several times in 2004. He also significantly cut down on dropped passes and concentration lapses this past season, pushing his stock even higher.

10. Detroit Lions: Heath Miller (jr.), TE, Virginia
A tremendous pass receiver and a willing blocker along the line, Miller would give quarterback Joey Harrington another weapon to complement his wide receivers. He'll also be a help to running back Kevin Jones in the rushing attack.

11. Dallas Cowboys: Shawne Merriman (jr.), DE/OLB, Maryland
A workout warrior with incredible physical skills, Merriman would be an ideal end/linebacker combo in a 3-4 scheme.

12. San Diego Chargers (from NYG): Derrick Johnson, OLB, Texas
Has the speed and strength to chase ballcarriers from sideline to sideline and make things happen when he gets to the ball.

13. Houston Texans: Mike Williams (jr.), WR, USC
Williams did not play in 2004 but dominated the college game for two seasons while at USC. His 6-foot-5, 230-pound frame gives him a big advantage over defensive backs, and he would make a perfect complement to young standout receiver Andre Johnson.

14. Carolina Panthers: Jammal Brown, OT, Oklahoma
Brown's long arms, good feet and balance allow him to engage defenders easily and move them off the ball or away from the quarterback.

15. Kansas City Chiefs: Antrel Rolle, CB, Miami
The Chiefs likely will dedicate most of their draft to defense, and Rolle is a good start. He has the cover skills to shut down wide receivers and also gives up his body against the run.

16. New Orleans Saints: Thomas Davis (jr.), OLB, Georgia
A punishing tackler who played safety in college, Davis has the size and speed to move into the front seven and make an impact at the pro level.

17. Cincinnati Bengals: Erasmus James, DE, Wisconsin
A force along the line of scrimmage, James can play the run, rush the passer and command double-team blocks. There are some durability questions, though, after he missed parts of the last two seasons with injury.

18. Minnesota Vikings: Shaun Cody, DL, USC
A versatile lineman who can play end or tackle, Cody would be a great fit for a Vikings team that has struggled at times along the defensive front.

19. St. Louis Rams: David Pollack, DE, Georgia
Pollack plays with tremendous intensity and his motor does not stop. He makes up for a lack of size with good initial quickness and great closing speed.

20. Dallas Cowboys (from BUF): Troy Williamson (jr.), WR, South Carolina
The fastest wideout in the draft, Williamson would be a great help to a team that lacked a consistent vertical threat.

21. Jacksonville Jaguars: Alex Barron, OT, Florida State
Barron is equally adept in the passing and running games and has light feet for a player his size.

22. Baltimore Ravens: Roddy White, WR, UAB
White's 4.42 speed in the 40 gives him a size/speed combination in the elite category. He is a big-play wideout who averaged 20.0 yards per catch in 2004.

23. Seattle Seahawks: Darryl Blackstock (jr.), OLB, Virginia
Blackstock is a solid all-around talent who shows flashes of greatness and has tremendous natural physical skills.

24. Green Bay Packers: Channing Crowder (so.), MLB, Florida
A tremendously productive player who adapted quickly to the collegiate game, Crowder has the ideal physical skills for a man in the middle.

25. Denver Broncos: Matt Roth, DE, Iowa
Roth is similar to David Pollack: undersized with a great motor and intensity. Roth was productive during his senior year and has good physical ability.

26. New York Jets: Carlos Rogers, CB, Auburn
A consistent, durable corner who can cover and support the run, Rogers has played against some of the best talent in the nation during his career.

27. Atlanta Falcons: Brandon Browner (so.), CB, Oregon State
A consistent cover man with good size, Browner would make a nice complement to Atlanta's top pick last year, CB DeAngelo Hall.

28. San Diego Chargers: Roscoe Parrish (jr.), WR, Miami
Parrish has speed and would be a good option to round out a receiving corps bolstered by the addition of WR Keenan McCardell and the emergence of TE Antonio Gates.

29. Indianapolis Colts: Bryant McFadden, CB, Florida State
Did not intercept many passes, but that's because teams respected his ability and avoided his side of the field. McFadden has the size to match up with big receivers.

30. New England Patriots: Justin Miller (jr.), CB, Clemson
A good fit for a team thin in the secondary this season.

31. Philadelphia Eagles: Justin Tuck (jr.), DE, Notre Dame
Good size and strength. Would be an asset for a team that thrives on pressuring the quarterback.

32. Pittsburgh Steelers: Alex Smith, TE, Stanford
An athletic pass receiver with great body control, Smith can stretch the deep middle and is a good hook-zone threat.
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Old 01-18-2005, 05:59 PM   #9
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Big C, you need something like Netscape or Mozilla to copy and paste Insider. Internet Explorer won't let you do it. Someone here taught me that (Cpayne5, SkinsnCanes? I forget)

Kind of wild that an Alex Smith could be the first and the last pick of the first round
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Old 01-18-2005, 06:01 PM   #10
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yeah...that takes too much time for me lol, sorry guys. i dont have either, so meh
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Old 01-18-2005, 06:11 PM   #11
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does anyone know when underclassmen have until to change their minds and remove their names from the draft?
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Old 01-18-2005, 06:58 PM   #12
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Originally Posted by celts32
The drops scare. I would rather trade down and get a WR and another pick.
im startin to beleive this is our best option
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Old 01-18-2005, 07:20 PM   #13
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i would rather see the skins get the wr from usc that had to sit out last year,mike williams.
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Old 01-18-2005, 07:33 PM   #14
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Mike Williams would lose to Ramsey in a 40 yard dash. That's my biggest beef with him.
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Old 01-18-2005, 07:59 PM   #15
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williams ran a 4.56 for scouts last year... while no means a burner, it's fast enough for a 6-5 stud with a 37" vertical. if he falls to us at 9, draft him and don't look back.
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