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Old 01-20-2005, 02:09 AM   #1
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The Washigton Times doesn't help

In the article imagine this Moss in a Redskins uniform supposed professional responsible profesional sports writters are proposing thing like this

*"So imagine, if you will, this scenario: The Vikings send Moss to the Redskins for their No. 1 pick (ninth overall), a No. 2 (either this year or next) and LaVar Arrington (without whom the Washington defense did just fine this season, ranking third in the league)."

No wonder casual fans are spouting similar strange theories. So not only do we trade our franchise defensive player and one of the longest serving players but our fisrt and second round picks (which we don't have - Cooley trade) for a PITA player. Owens last year was traded for a 3rd and a 5th and a player on the bubble and that is only becasue Baltimore was involved . The times goes on to say....

"It would be similar to the Champ Bailey-for-Clinton Portis trade. The Redskins would be swapping a Pro Bowl defensive player for a Pro Bowl offensive player one big contract for another and also mortgaging some of their future."

Champ was gone he didn't want to play here no more Arrington loves Washington so much has just signed a huge extention and has said he will probably drop the 6.5million greivence... now there is love for you. For the price Denver ended up paying Bailey we got Portis and Springs a probowl offensive and defensive player. The Mortgaging of our future I assume was our second round pick which some say was OTT but no where near as damaging as trading a top ten pick and most likey solid starter at least.

At least they aknowledge that

[I]"The trick would be to make the numbers work. The Redskins would be hit with a huge cap charge if they traded Arrington so early in his deal, but they could alleviate some of it by releasing Mark Brunell, their grossly overpaid backup quarterback. Fitting in Moss' salary would be less problematic. He's due to make $7.25 million next season, but the Redskins could guarantee the money and reduce his cap number to about $1.8 million."[/]

But what about 2006/07 the years they espouse we will in cap hell taking major hits to the cap like this now would be devistating especially consdiering how close we are to the cap now and the size of Mosses contract he doesn't stike me as a renegociating type.

But of cause Snyders the most likey to pull the trigger on a deal like this becasue of all of his splashy moves in ermm 2000 4 years ago. Remeber our big time moves like in 2002 when we got uch glittering stars like Danny W, Shane Mathews, Anthony and all the other bargin basement ex Gators. Or how about 2001 with the Shottenhimer purge of the roster that not only got rid of many of the big time players brought in in 2000 but also a whole load of young talent.
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Old 01-20-2005, 03:19 AM   #2
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the viking messageboard ain't hearin' it... they want taylor thrown in for us to get moss! delusional to say the least...
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Old 01-20-2005, 03:55 AM   #3
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Yes, I agree the Washington Times piece is out of touch with reality. It's embarassing - but this is the Washington Times, which is an embarassment to journalism.

Moss will not be a Redskin - it doesn't matter at this point what Dan Snyder wants. His only claim to credibility is that he brought back Joe Gibbs. Gibbs has the authority now. If Snyder had failed, you would have soon seen the kind of signs and t-shirts worn to 49er games this past season "Save the Niners - Dump York". Snyder was becoming a joke in the sporting world and he has to stay out of the true decision making picture.

Gibbs is not going to want Moss on the team. The Redskins will only take on team oriented players because Gibbs and the staff know that success is first based on creating a co-operative spirit of unity and Moss lacks the common sense to understand that by all appearances.
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Old 01-20-2005, 04:22 AM   #4
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the viking messageboard ain't hearin' it... they want taylor thrown in for us to get moss! delusional to say the least...
I dont know what they are smokin!! Yeah we will give up 1 pro bowler and young promissing safty plus draft picks just for Randy Moss!!! Thanks but no thanks, to me that would be breaking the bank and the team!! Moss would help out our offense but not at that price!!
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Old 01-20-2005, 08:26 AM   #5
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Wait a minute, so we can deal with Arrington's cap hit by releasing Brunell and taking on another big cap hit? Huh?

The deal outlined in this article is absurd.
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Old 01-20-2005, 08:58 AM   #6
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It really doesn't make sense to me either. Why in the hell would we go and sign Lavar to long term deal and then go trade him for a player who has been nothing but a problem in Minnesota?
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I was hoping this article would come up in a thread...

This thing is an embaressment to journalism. Its ludacris. Even throwing out all the salary cap ramifications, we would have to be crazy to give that much up for one guy. Hes good.....he aint that good. A First, Second and Arrington??? WOW! Moss is not going to be a Skin.
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I don't know why this is so rediculous considering everything we've been through over the past 6 years. I don't think it will happen, but we should consider it well within the realm of possibility.
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So what middle school does this paper write for?
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Sometimes the Washington Times just angers the hell out of me.
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This is not a news article. It's just gossip. It has no more relevance than us discussing a Moss trade on this website. They did not interview one person on the inside that could verify any of this. Just pure excramint...Lavar and 2 high draft picks! Why don't we just include the Stadium and the cheerleaders also...
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Someone needs to be committed to an asylum. No way Moss is worth all that!!!! Certainly not with his stank ass attitude.
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I don't know why this is so rediculous considering everything we've been through over the past 6 years. I don't think it will happen, but we should consider it well within the realm of possibility.
The thought of Snyder being interested in Moss wouldn't surprise me in the least bit, but what's absurd is trading Arrington and releasing Brunell in the same year, the cap hits would be insane.

This guy should have at least come up with a realistic scenario. Draft picks is the most realistic compensation for Moss, he would probably cost us our first rounder this year and next, and maybe another pick like a 3rd.
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This is not a news article. It's just gossip. It has no more relevance than us discussing a Moss trade on this website. They did not interview one person on the inside that could verify any of this. Just pure excramint...Lavar and 2 high draft picks! Why don't we just include the Stadium and the cheerleaders also...
It has less relevance than us discussing this, because we have a clue of the tremendous downside to a deal like that.
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Old 01-20-2005, 12:50 PM   #15
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This is not a news article. It's just gossip. It has no more relevance than us discussing a Moss trade on this website. They did not interview one person on the inside that could verify any of this. Just pure excramint...Lavar and 2 high draft picks! Why don't we just include the Stadium and the cheerleaders also...
Maybe we can even package in a couple of Warpathers to start posting over on Vikings sites too?? How bout Daseal, Joe Crisp and a conditional thrid pick?



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