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Old 12-13-2011, 02:12 PM   #211
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Only reason I put Ben Grubbs is because I dont know how Lich will return from his torn acl.
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I would actually go as far as saying that unless we take our RT of the future high in the draft, we're pretty much heading into 2012 with the same offensive line group as in 2011. Maybe it makes some sense to take a center in the fourth round to compete for Erik Cook's roster spot, but the Williams, Lichtensteiger, Montgomery, Chester front four is actually a pretty strong group that looks a lot worse than it is because of injury and also because the RT has been dreadful ever since the team got rid of Jon Jansen.
Willie Smith is our RT of the future, mark my words.
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Old 12-13-2011, 02:41 PM   #213
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So what you are saying is that my roster is brilliant?
Gotta have Kory Lichtenstieger on it for it to be brilliant.

Grubbs is a far more established guard being a legit first rounder and all, but I'm not sure he actually improves our team over the guy who has made 19 starts for us in the last two years.

I'd go something pretty close to that. For as inept as our offense has been this year, we have shockingly few holes to obviously upgrade. We're missing a RT, we're a receiver short of a top passing game, and the quarterback. But that's 8 or 9 players on the offense who should be back next year. Which means that most of the work is already done.

It would seem like the biggest decisions of the offseason are going to be on the defensive side of the ball, even if the top two draft picks are going to be offensive players.
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QB Robert Griffin III, Rex Grossman, Kellen Moore
RB Roy Helu, Evan Royster, Jeff Demps
FB Darrell Young
WR Santana Moss, Leonard Hankerson, Dwight Jones, Jabar Gaffney, Brandon Banks
TE Fred Davis, Chris Cooley, Logan Paulsen
LT Trent Williams, Sean Locklear
LG Ben Grubbs, Mo Hurt
C Will Montgomery
RG Chris Chester
RT Willie Smith, Jamaal Brown

DE Jarvis Jenkins, Adam Carriker
NT Barry Cofield, Chris Neild
DE Stephen Bowen, Kentwan Balmer
OLB Ryan Kerrigan, Lorenzo Alexander
ILB Perry Riley, K. Fox
ILB London Fletcher
OLB Brian Orakpo, Rob Jackson
CB DeAngelo Hall, Cliff Harris
CB Josh Wilson, Kevin Barnes
FS Ray Ray Armstrong, Dejuan Gomes
SS LaRon Landry
K Graham Gano
P Sav Rocca
KR/PR Brandon Banks/Cliff Harris

Only change would be a WR for me

Bowe instead of Jones
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Gotta have Kory Lichtenstieger on it for it to be brilliant.

Grubbs is a far more established guard being a legit first rounder and all, but I'm not sure he actually improves our team over the guy who has made 19 starts for us in the last two years.

I'd go something pretty close to that. For as inept as our offense has been this year, we have shockingly few holes to obviously upgrade. We're missing a RT, we're a receiver short of a top passing game, and the quarterback. But that's 8 or 9 players on the offense who should be back next year. Which means that most of the work is already done.

It would seem like the biggest decisions of the offseason are going to be on the defensive side of the ball, even if the top two draft picks are going to be offensive players.
Torn ACL is what stopped me from putting him there along with his FA status.
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Only change would be a WR for me

Bowe instead of Jones
Want nothing to do with him.
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Want nothing to do with him.

He produces w any QB
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Willie Smith is our RT of the future, mark my words.
He has really good feet. But he's a 25 year old rookie that didn't get drafted, and the learning curve at the level is impossibly steep.

It's debatable whether or not Willie Smith is a good OT prospect, and remember that the last good OT prospect we had that was undrafted was Stephon Heyer. What would be tough to argue was that even if Willie Smith was a great raw talent, the window of opportunity for him to prove he belongs at this level is razor thin and frankly may already be 25% over.

So the odds are stacked against Willie Smith, to the point where I feel that calling him the RT of the future is a bit of hyperbole. That doesn't mean he can't beat those odds, of course.
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He produces w any QB
Rather draft Jones, who will be a star in my eyes.
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Torn ACL is what stopped me from putting him there along with his FA status.
Still, it would be a surprise to me if his recovery was slow enough so that Mo Hurt would beat him out for the starting LG spot next season.
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Rather draft Jones, who will be a star in my eyes.

would u rather have a COULD be or a IS?
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would u rather have a COULD be or a IS?
COULD since the IS that we usually get from other teams ends up being a HAS BEEN.
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Not Fletch or Moss Just saying
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Still, it would be a surprise to me if his recovery was slow enough so that Mo Hurt would beat him out for the starting LG spot next season.
Valid point. He was our 2nd best OL before he went down.
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Not Fletch or Moss Just saying
Trotter, Jason Taylor, L. Coles, Walt Harris, Adam Archuleta, Antwaan Randle El, Brandon Lloyd, Fred Smoot (2nd time), etc etc etc
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