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Old 12-28-2011, 01:16 PM   #316
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If the Rams lose to SF, which will most likely hapopen, and Indy beats Jacksonville, which could happen, then the Rams have the 1st pick. That could make things very interesting for us as far as getting a QB. With a new coach, perhaps Gruden in Stl, he may want to start with Luck, which makes Bradford expendable.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:26 PM   #317
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If the Rams lose to SF, which will most likely hapopen, and Indy beats Jacksonville, which could happen, then the Rams have the 1st pick. That could make things very interesting for us as far as getting a QB. With a new coach, perhaps Gruden in Stl, he may want to start with Luck, which makes Bradford expendable.
I asked yesterday someone who should know and he said Gruden is not interested in the Rams job, or any job right now.

But who knows, maybe his opinion will change.

Regardless, Devaney and Spags are both probably gone and if the Rams get the first pick they can ask for a ransom for either Luck or Bradford. Keep one and add an LT (Kalil?).
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Old 12-28-2011, 02:38 PM   #318
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I asked yesterday someone who should know and he said Gruden is not interested in the Rams job, or any job right now.

But who knows, maybe his opinion will change.

Regardless, Devaney and Spags are both probably gone and if the Rams get the first pick they can ask for a ransom for either Luck or Bradford. Keep one and add an LT (Kalil?).
Hey Smootsmack, did you work for the Redskins at one time?
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Hey Smootsmack, did you work for the Redskins at one time?
he works somewhere else. his info is good though promise.
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Directly for them? No, never. Almost, but no
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Old 12-28-2011, 03:21 PM   #321
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If I recall, Shanahan just wanted Campbell to compete not for Campbell to leave. Too many people in this world want to something for nothing. And no, I won't mention Barkley in this thread.
I don't blame JC for not "competing." He was, and is, better than each QB Mike and Kyle brought in. And...he was already in DC and didn't cost picks etc.
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I don't blame JC for not "competing." He was, and is, better than each QB Mike and Kyle brought in. And...he was already in DC and didn't cost picks etc.
This is why I'm starting to believe we're a snakebitten franchise. I don't know maybe some disgrutled native Americans put a hex on the team due to their disdian for our name. Anyways, just seems that players perform better once they leave D.C which shouldn't be the case. Rogers and A. Carter are just the latest examples, no pro-bowlers this year but the 2 we though we could do without end up making the pro-bowl. Hell, if Rogers would of played for us like the did for the 49ers this year we would of been a playoff bound team last year.

As for J.C, since when did he learn to complete the deep ball? I can't count how many time he missed open recievers deep, however he's made some amazing deep throws to Denarius Moore and Jacoby Ford in Oakland. Eventhough I wasn't a JC fan in his defense we never really built around him. Didn't get him a left tackle, didn't get him a solid core of recievers, all he had was a running back and a TE, which would rationalize why he turned into Captain checkdown when he played for us.

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Old 12-29-2011, 10:04 AM   #323
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Since we're talking about the 2012 Skins ......

I don't like hearing Washington DC and Maryland making a push for the Redskins to move their home office from Ashburn, VA to DC or Maryland. The Skins have played in DC for years but their office/practice facility has always been in VA. I'll be pissed if they move out of VA.

Maryland has rhe Baltimore Ravens
DC used to have the Redskins games every Sunday

VA has nothing but the home office or practice facility. I don't know what I'll do if they move. Taking what little us VA fans have as a home team away from us will definitely leave me feeling like Colts fans of the 70's and Brown fans when their teams packed and left.... very bitter.
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If I recall, Shanahan just wanted Campbell to compete not for Campbell to leave. Too many people in this world want to something for nothing. And no, I won't mention Barkley in this thread.
Not sure what you mean since MS traded him. How did he just want him to compete and not for him to leave?
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Directly for them? No, never. Almost, but no
SS, have you heard any plans for the secondary? D Hall back? Barnes future, is it Safety or CB? Laron?
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We definitely need some fresh faces at QB. I've just about had enough with Grossman and his 2 turnovers per game. I think the Shannys have had it too.

I agree with the 2 turnover a game thing, but realistically Rex will be back next year. He isn't going to get a starting job anywhere, and what better backup position is there? He could still end up starting if the rookie isn't ready. And the last few weeks (aside the picks) the offense has looked pretty decent and avg about 20+ a game.
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SS, have you heard any plans for the secondary? D Hall back? Barnes future, is it Safety or CB? Laron?
Haven't heard anything
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I agree with the 2 turnover a game thing, but realistically Rex will be back next year. He isn't going to get a starting job anywhere, and what better backup position is there? He could still end up starting if the rookie isn't ready. And the last few weeks (aside the picks) the offense has looked pretty decent and avg about 20+ a game.
I've got no problem with him coming back as a backup. I just don't want to see him starting.

His turnovers are killers. I don't think you can just overlook them and say well the offense is playing better. 2 turnovers a game from one player is very difficult to overcome. You just can't win games consistently with a QB like him.
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I've got no problem with him coming back as a backup. I just don't want to see him starting.

His turnovers are killers. I don't think you can just overlook them and say well the offense is playing better. 2 turnovers a game from one player is very difficult to overcome. You just can't win games consistently with a QB like him.
We'll have alot of questions answered by April. You are right, you can't have 2 TO's a game and expect to win. No doubt about it. Our problem is we don't have another viable option besides sticking a rookie in there. I'm assuming we'll have one qb from the draft. If its Luck/RGIII then we might start them, if not, do you throw them in the mix right out of college? We might need Rex to start next year. He knows the offense. He'll have a better oline, better run game, and more playmakers. The TO's are frustrating, but he does know the offense very well.

You could dump Rex and sign another FA, but options are limited there too.
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