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SBXVII · 12-29-2011, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

I don't blame JC for not "competing." He was, and is, better than each QB Mike and Kyle brought in. And...he was already in DC and didn't cost picks etc.

The humor on this board is sometimes overwhelming. JC is just as bad, or equal to Grossman. There I said it. JC made bad decisions, JC was not accurate on the long ball, JC needed all day to throw, JC might have been able to scramble better then Grossman I'll give you that, but otherwise his down side was similar to Grossmans and it would have taken him more then one offseason to learn the scheme... ie; McNabb. Grossman knew more then JC in regards to the scheme he just needed the WR's and OL to catch up to him. Now that they are close in understanding the scheme getting a better QB is in order.

SirClintonPortis · 12-29-2011, 07:15 PM

JC-to-McNabb was a lateral move. A foolish, costly lateral move, but still a lateral move. Had we kept JC, patience with him would be wearing very thin by now and he might have lost out to Grossman anyway, just like McNabb.

SBXVII · 12-29-2011, 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

Why would it matter? It's not like you can go watch them practice, except the few that are open in training camp.

Actually your right. But VA can't get a NFL team cause Snyder wants to claim it will take away from his revenue. So no pro team for VA. They have had their home office in VA for years. DC wants the team playing in DC again, I'd be ok with that. I guess even if they decided to make the stadium their home office but I'm getting tired of Maryland wanting to take everything. They have the Ravens. Let the Redskins stay in DC or VA.

redskin29633 · 12-29-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

The humor on this board is sometimes overwhelming. JC is just as bad, or equal to Grossman. There I said it. JC made bad decisions, JC was not accurate on the long ball, JC needed all day to throw, JC might have been able to scramble better then Grossman I'll give you that, but otherwise his down side was similar to Grossmans and it would have taken him more then one offseason to learn the scheme... ie; McNabb. Grossman knew more then JC in regards to the scheme he just needed the WR's and OL to catch up to him. Now that they are close in understanding the scheme getting a better QB is in order.

Really makes me wonder why Gibbs was so fascinated with Campbell. When he was at Auburn, I could never see anything that would lead you to conclude that he would become even an average NFL QB. That's one that I will probably never understand.

Mattyk · 12-29-2011, 08:10 PM

Given the choice I'd gladly take JC over Grossman. JC might not be a game breaker (neither is Grossman), but he's not going to kill you with INTs either. He's an efficient game manager that can win games in this league with a supporting cast. Sooner or later Grossman will kill you with a crucial INT or fumble.

SirClintonPortis · 12-29-2011, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by redskin29633

Really makes me wonder why Gibbs was so fascinated with Campbell. When he was at Auburn, I could never see anything that would lead you to conclude that he would become even an average NFL QB. That's one that I will probably never understand.

Gibbs thought very highly of Rypien and Williams. He saw qualities in them that he saw in Campbell.

Hail to the Redskins · 12-29-2011, 08:41 PM

One guy that hasn't been mentioned is WR Malcolm Floyd out of Notre Dame... I know a lot of people on here are in love with Justin Blackmon... but Floyd is a monster. Great size, strong as an Ox, can leap, and has great hands.

I've liked him since last year.

When is he supposed to go? Late 1st?

I seriously doubt we end up with him... but I think he's going to be a good pro.

skinsfaninok · 12-29-2011, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

One guy that hasn't been mentioned is WR Malcolm Floyd out of Notre Dame... I know a lot of people on here are in love with Justin Blackmon... but Floyd is a monster. Great size, strong as an Ox, can leap, and has great hands.

I've liked him since last year.

When is he supposed to go? Late 1st?

I seriously doubt we end up with him... but I think he's going to be a good pro.

Many said the same about Golden Tate, in fact who was the Last ND WR to even be good in the NFL? Tim Brown?

Chico23231 · 12-29-2011, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Many said the same about Golden Tate, in fact who was the Last ND WR to even be good in the NFL? Tim Brown?

Floyd is a much better prospect than Tainte. Floyd got enough talent to go top 10. Anything after the first round for Floyd would be an epic steal.

Lotus · 12-29-2011, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

One guy that hasn't been mentioned is WR Malcolm Floyd out of Notre Dame... I know a lot of people on here are in love with Justin Blackmon... but Floyd is a monster. Great size, strong as an Ox, can leap, and has great hands.

I've liked him since last year.

When is he supposed to go? Late 1st?

I seriously doubt we end up with him... but I think he's going to be a good pro.

I've thought about him and Kendall Wright.

Wouldn't it be sweet to take a QB at sevenish and then trade back into the late first round to get Floyd or Wright?

That Guy · 12-29-2011, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by redskin29633

Really makes me wonder why Gibbs was so fascinated with Campbell. When he was at Auburn, I could never see anything that would lead you to conclude that he would become even an average NFL QB. That's one that I will probably never understand.

he is and has been an average NFL quarterback. he sure worked out a lot better for oakland than those palmer games i watched.

SirClintonPortis · 12-29-2011, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Hail to the Redskins

One guy that hasn't been mentioned is WR Malcolm Floyd out of Notre Dame... I know a lot of people on here are in love with Justin Blackmon... but Floyd is a monster. Great size, strong as an Ox, can leap, and has great hands.

I've liked him since last year.

When is he supposed to go? Late 1st?

I seriously doubt we end up with him... but I think he's going to be a good pro.

It's Michael Floyd. Malcolm Floyd is a Charger WR.

redskin29633 · 12-29-2011, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by That Guy

he is and has been an average NFL quarterback. he sure worked out a lot better for oakland than those palmer games i watched.

JC may be slightly better than he appeared based on his collegiate performance, but not by much. My view of him is slightly below average, but that's not really the point. Regardless, average or just below, neither category explains Gibbs' fascination nor the Redskins' investment in him!

GTripp0012 · 12-29-2011, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

JC-to-McNabb was a lateral move. A foolish, costly lateral move, but still a lateral move. Had we kept JC, patience with him would be wearing very thin by now and he might have lost out to Grossman anyway, just like McNabb.

I would have crapped on this comment two years ago, but watching Mike and Kyle work with these quarterbacks, I tend to think you're right. Campbell wouldn't have improved under Kyle Shanahan the way he improved under Hue Jackson. He would have just remained frustrating and have lost playing time to Rex Grossman.

Which, of course, would have been a way better course of action than we've actually gone.

SkinItup · 12-30-2011, 02:35 AM

It would be nice to have the 2nd round pick we used to trade for McNabb, We could have gotten Gronkowski, Taylor Mays, Ben tate, Sean lee, or terrance cody with that pick.

I know I shouldn't on the could haves.

12-29-2011, 07:15 PM	#347
SirClintonPortis Pro Bowl Join Date: Oct 2008 Posts: 6,052	Re: 2012 redskins JC-to-McNabb was a lateral move. A foolish, costly lateral move, but still a lateral move. Had we kept JC, patience with him would be wearing very thin by now and he might have lost out to Grossman anyway, just like McNabb. __________________ Analysis using datasets (aka stats) is an attempt at reverse-engineering a player's "goodness". Virtuosity remembered, douchebaggery forgotten. The ideal character profile shoved down modern Western men and women's throats is Don Juan.

12-29-2011, 08:10 PM	#350
Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 73,184	Re: 2012 redskins Given the choice I'd gladly take JC over Grossman. JC might not be a game breaker (neither is Grossman), but he's not going to kill you with INTs either. He's an efficient game manager that can win games in this league with a supporting cast. Sooner or later Grossman will kill you with a crucial INT or fumble. __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-29-2011, 08:41 PM	#352
Hail to the Redskins The Starter Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,319	Re: 2012 redskins One guy that hasn't been mentioned is WR Malcolm Floyd out of Notre Dame... I know a lot of people on here are in love with Justin Blackmon... but Floyd is a monster. Great size, strong as an Ox, can leap, and has great hands. I've liked him since last year. When is he supposed to go? Late 1st? I seriously doubt we end up with him... but I think he's going to be a good pro. __________________ “Sometimes it is not enough to our best; we must do what is required.” - Sir Winston Churchill (1874-1965)

12-30-2011, 02:35 AM	#360
SkinItup Special Teams Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 155	Re: 2012 redskins It would be nice to have the 2nd round pick we used to trade for McNabb, We could have gotten Gronkowski, Taylor Mays, Ben tate, Sean lee, or terrance cody with that pick. I know I shouldn't on the could haves.

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