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Old 02-10-2012, 11:59 AM   #571
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QB: Manning/Orton/rookie
RB: Helu/Royster/Hightower
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DE: Bowen/FA/rookie
NT: Cofield/Nield
DE: Jenkins/FA/rookie
OLB: Kerrigan/FA/Rookie
ILB: Fletch/Rookie
ILB: Riley/Rookie
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Old 02-10-2012, 01:55 PM   #572
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i am very excited about jarvis jenkins. he looked like he was pistol-whipping blind kids before the lord called him to injury reserve.
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Old 02-10-2012, 02:01 PM   #573
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Where is DeAngelo Hall at contract wise?
Anyone?
He's got two years left plus a dummy year in 2014.

Hall at this point is year-to-year contractually. It's as cheap to cut him now as he's ever going to be because almost all of the remaining money in his contract is in non-guaranteed salary. In other words, if you wanted to sign Stanford Routt or Brandon Carr, you could do so under the cap for less money than it would take to keep Hall on the roster.
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Old 02-10-2012, 02:11 PM   #574
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In other words, if you wanted to sign Stanford Routt or Brandon Carr, you could do so under the cap for less money than it would take to keep Hall on the roster.
far is a relative term. i'm thinking $2M less in 2012, at the most.
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:07 PM   #575
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far is a relative term. i'm thinking $2M less in 2012, at the most.
$4 mil 2012 cap number? That probably gets a Routt deal done.
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i can dig a bargain. what kind of deal are we talking about here?
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:38 PM   #577
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Hall at this point is year-to-year contractually. It's as cheap to cut him now as he's ever going to be because almost all of the remaining money in his contract is in non-guaranteed salary. In other words, if you wanted to sign Stanford Routt or Brandon Carr, you could do so under the cap for less money than it would take to keep Hall on the roster.
You can thank the uncapped year for Hall's cap-friendly contract. They basically shoved all his bonus money into the uncapped year, so all that remains is salary.

And thus I think it's time for Hall to go. Maybe bring him back for less via a restructured deal, but from what I can tell that's not Hall's style. I see no reason to bring him back for $6M when we can cut him for nothing.

Josh Wilson's 1st year cap hit was $3.4M, so there's a ballpark of what bringing a new guy might cost us against the cap.
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:43 PM   #578
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You can thank the uncapped year for Hall's cap-friendly contract. They basically shoved all his bonus money into the uncapped year, so all that remains is salary.

And thus I think it's time for Hall to go. Maybe bring him back for less via a restructured deal, but from what I can tell that's not Hall's style. I see no reason to bring him back for $6M when we can cut him for nothing.

Josh Wilson's 1st year cap hit was $3.4M, so there's a ballpark of what bringing a new guy might cost us against the cap.
I like Hall but based on his salary I think it's time for him to go or redo his contract.
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Old 02-10-2012, 03:58 PM   #579
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You can thank the uncapped year for Hall's cap-friendly contract. They basically shoved all his bonus money into the uncapped year, so all that remains is salary.

And thus I think it's time for Hall to go. Maybe bring him back for less via a restructured deal, but from what I can tell that's not Hall's style. I see no reason to bring him back for $6M when we can cut him for nothing.

Josh Wilson's 1st year cap hit was $3.4M, so there's a ballpark of what bringing a new guy might cost us against the cap.
why couldn't/didn't they do that with trent williams?
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why couldn't/didn't they do that with trent williams?
They did. TW has very little bonus left in his contract ($1.8M). The bulk of it is salary and roster bonuses. His cap hit for 2012 is $12.6M, but $11M of it is salary.
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Old 02-10-2012, 04:37 PM   #581
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I'd take carr or grimes over hall... not sure routt is a good option though.
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Old 02-10-2012, 05:02 PM   #582
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He's got two years left plus a dummy year in 2014.

Hall at this point is year-to-year contractually. It's as cheap to cut him now as he's ever going to be because almost all of the remaining money in his contract is in non-guaranteed salary. In other words, if you wanted to sign Stanford Routt or Brandon Carr, you could do so under the cap for less money than it would take to keep Hall on the roster.
I thought DHall was a dummy last year.
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I'd take carr or grimes over hall... not sure routt is a good option though.
agree, Routt got the big deal and played like sh*t last year. I wouldnt bring him for starters money.
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Old 02-10-2012, 05:35 PM   #584
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I agree with Joe Theismann. We don't need Peyton Manning. At most, he'll play for 3 years. We need to draft a quarterback who is a long term solution. Part of the reason why this team has finished 5-11, 9-7, 8-8, 4-12, 6-10, and 5-11 the last six seasons is inconsistent play at the quarterback position. This is more the reason to trade up and draft Robert Griffin III
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Old 02-10-2012, 05:48 PM   #585
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what I THINK our roster will look like..

QB: Manning/Grossman/Tannehill
RB: Helu/Royster
FB: Young
WR: Garcon or Wayne/Moss/Hank/Gaffney
TE Davis/CC
LT: Trent Williams
LG: Hurt
C: Cook
RG: Chester
RT: Willie Smith/FA
NT: Jenkins/Coefield
DE: Bowen
DE: Carriker
ILB: Fletch
OLB: RAK
OLB: Kerrigan
CB1: Hall
CB2: Tracy Porter
Nickel: Wilson
S: O.J.A
S: Michael Huff
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