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Old 12-03-2011, 07:43 AM   #106
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I'll be the first to admit Landry was having an excellent season before he got injured in 2010. But for whatever reason he hasn't been the same player this season at all. Maybe it's because he's injured, but it's also his fault he's still dealing with that Achilles. How many players do you see get a serious injury like an Achilles and not get surgery on it?

And don't sit there and act like he didn't just do exactly what I said above last week in Seattle. He tried to lay the wood and that guy that plays for Seattle just bounced off him and gained an additional 10 yards. And that's not the first time that's happened. Add in the fact that he doesn't have a pick this season and you can say all you want about his impact, but the facts are showing it's just not there this season. Atogwe has been underwhelming too and that only magnifies the problem.

All that said, do I want him back next season? If I ran the team, I'd tell him to go do whatever he needs to do to be healthy next season, I'd give him a one year deal, and I'd let him know he's got one more chance to show this team he can be an elite player. Because we all know he will want to be paid like an elite player, but I'm not seeing the production to match it so far.
Its good you would tell Laundry that you would give him a 1 year deal if you were in charge. The thing is he is a free agent at the end of the season. So unless we franchise tag him or offer him a contract you wont be getting a 1 year deal from LaRon. It's no way he is going to risk a injury for a 1 year deal. Either we roll the dice and sign him to a long term deal or franchise tag him for trade bait. When LaRon is healthy he is a beast so we just have to keep our fingers cross that he will get healthy this off season and work out with our training staff. We need to keep our players and pay them instead of bring in more Adam Archelettas who are free agent busts.
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Old 12-03-2011, 07:55 AM   #107
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Look, I think it says a lot about Landry's value that no one thinks he's been at his best this year or even particularly good, and yet he's been perhaps the only above average performer in our secondary this year. It also says a lot about Atogwe, Hall, and Wilson. Though I think in Josh Wilson's case, we got what was advertised.
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Does D Hall stay or go in the offseason? scheduled to make 6.8m next year and 8.3m 2013
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Does D Hall stay or go in the offseason? scheduled to make 6.8m next year and 8.3m 2013
Now that's a better question. With Landry I am confident if he's healthy and willing to learn from his mistakes, he can easily be the player he's supposed to be. With D.Hall I'm not sure we want to pay him 6.8 mil for uneven play next season.
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Now that's a better question. With Landry I am confident if he's healthy and willing to learn from his mistakes, he can easily be the player he's supposed to be. With D.Hall I'm not sure we want to pay him 6.8 mil for uneven play next season.
I know it looks like alot of money, but I think it is probably average CB money. I would consider him at least close to average.

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Old 12-03-2011, 12:01 PM   #111
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Old 12-03-2011, 12:05 PM   #112
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I would be favor to have D Hall return 1 more year, would like to see us draft a CB this year. When it comes to the draft this year ideally I would like to see us:

round 1: QB
2: CB
3: G/C
4: ILB
5: FS

I like the value/quality of rated prospects in each of those positions in those rounds as well.
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Does D Hall stay or go in the offseason? scheduled to make 6.8m next year and 8.3m 2013
I hope he goes and they draft someone in the 2nd round to replace him. He's not worth the money he's getting paid.
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Like I said if we don't go QB in rd 1 I want Morris Claiborne
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Old 12-03-2011, 01:28 PM   #115
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Like I said if we don't go QB in rd 1 I want Morris Claiborne
either him, tackle from USC or Justin Blackmon
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either him, tackle from USC or Justin Blackmon
Kalil is going top 3. I'd add Trent Richardson to that list.
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Old 12-03-2011, 03:21 PM   #117
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Thank god we took Williams over Okung. I think Okung is hurt all the time. At least Williams play most games and is pretty good when he is in there.
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I would be favor to have D Hall return 1 more year, would like to see us draft a CB this year. When it comes to the draft this year ideally I would like to see us:

round 1: QB
2: CB
3: G/C
4: ILB
5: FS

I like the value/quality of rated prospects in each of those positions in those rounds as well.
We may not have a 2nd rounder if we need to move up to get our QB. I would rather look at free agency to bolster our secondary. Although, needs in the secondary may shift depending on what happens to Landry and how much we can rely on Atogwe as a FS.

I still think that our defense would like much better if we had a complimentary offense.


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Thank god we took Williams over Okung. I think Okung is hurt all the time. At least Williams play most games and is pretty good when he is in there.
Most definitely. He's a good player, but he slowly becoming unreliable in terms of staying healthy.
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The Redskins will no doubt draft another running back. I'd be surprised if Torain doesn't end up on the team. But I think he's trade bait rather than the Redskins just releasing him.
Shoot McNabb just got released and his resume is a lot more impressive than Torain's. I don't see Torain getting too many looks bud.
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We may not have a 2nd rounder if we need to move up to get our QB. I would rather look at free agency to bolster our secondary. Although, needs in the secondary may shift depending on what happens to Landry and how much we can rely on Atogwe as a FS.

I still think that our defense would like much better if we had a complimentary offense.




Most definitely. He's a good player, but he slowly becoming unreliable in terms of staying healthy.

WE are a top 8 pick for sure, if not top 5. Not everyone is going to need a QB, and even if they did the QB class is very deep.
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