Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


Season Awards: Offensive line MVP

Redskins Locker Room


View Poll Results: Who was the Redskins MVP on the offensive line in 2004?
Thomas 17 34.69%
Brown 12 24.49%
Samuels 17 34.69%
other (explain) 3 6.12%
Voters: 49. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-21-2005, 08:12 AM   #1
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 41
Posts: 81,953
Season Awards: Offensive line MVP

I don't have any stats to put up with the nominees so this poll may be a bit more subjective than the rest.

Thomas
Brown
Samuels
other
Mattyk is offline   Reply With Quote

Advertisements
Old 01-21-2005, 08:31 AM   #2
Playmaker
 
cpayne5's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,807
I voted Chris Samuels. This guy takes a lot of heat from people on this board, but he only allowed 1 sack this year. This was a nice rebound year for him.
__________________
"It's not about what you've done, but what's been done for you."
cpayne5 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2005, 08:36 AM   #3
Thank You, Sean.
 
Gmanc711's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Gaithersburg, MD
Age: 28
Posts: 7,500
I'll go with Thomas. He was the most consistant overall this year, but like Cpayne said, Samuels does deserve some credit. I really hope this group stays together (w/ a new center) , because I think once they start to gel, they will become a very good line.

And he wasent the MVP, but I'll give some props to Ray Brown. The guy played his ass off, and he did a damn good job compared to what alot of us expected coming in.
__________________
#21
Gmanc711 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2005, 09:03 AM   #4
Franchise Player
 
FRPLG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 35
Posts: 9,958
How come Raymer isn't on the list?
FRPLG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2005, 09:06 AM   #5
Playmaker
 
BrudLee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE
Posts: 3,494
I said it in the "skill category" of the offense, and I'll say it here. Ray Brown wasn't expected to receive a paycheck in August, and he ably started double-digit games for us. That's a valuable trait. Valuable enough that the coaching staff has said more about his return than, oh, Fred Smoot's for example. Samuels is a great player, but Ray Brown is a mentor to the young players on this team. If Jansen returns healthy, I'd expect Brown to push Dockery, and maybe even the two-headed crappy center team we have for a starting spot.

By the way, he still gets my vote in the "skill" category, too. When you are 40 years old, and handling 23 year olds for 60+ plays a game, there's some skill involved there.
__________________
There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.
BrudLee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2005, 09:06 AM   #6
Playmaker
 
BrudLee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE
Posts: 3,494
Quote:
Originally Posted by FRPLG
How come Raymer isn't on the list?
This reminds me, Matty. We need a sarcasm button.
__________________
There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.
BrudLee is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2005, 09:45 AM   #7
Puppy Kicker
 
Daseal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Arlington, Virginia
Age: 31
Posts: 8,220
Samuels also played hurt all year.

But I chose Thomas! He came back early froim injury and I think also did a very good job this year. Both Samuels and Thomas had a good year, in my opinion
Daseal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2005, 09:56 AM   #8
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 41
Posts: 81,953
I agree with BL and I went with Ray Brown.

He took a lot of heat on the board just like Samuels, but you've got to give the guy a lot of credit considering his age. Sure he was a step down from Jansen but we would have been completely lost without this guy.

Samuels is a close second. He bounced back strong from a disasterous last two seasons. Hopefully he'll restructure and get back to 100% in the offseason. I know some people would like to see him released, but I think that would be a huge mistake. Of course if he won't redo his deal we might have no choice, but I think we should avoid that at all costs.
Mattyk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2005, 12:55 PM   #9
Franchise Player
 
Sheriff Gonna Getcha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 35
Posts: 8,317
It's a toss up between Samuels and Brown. Brown filled in as a quality starter even though he was deemed an old backup by many. We had higher expectations for Samuels and he surpassed them.
Sheriff Gonna Getcha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2005, 01:09 PM   #10
I like big (_|_)s.
 
TheMalcolmConnection's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Lexington, Virginia
Age: 32
Posts: 17,548
I thought everyone was pretty solid except for Raymer... I picked Thomas though.
__________________
Regret nothing. At one time it was exactly what you wanted.
TheMalcolmConnection is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2005, 01:33 PM   #11
Fight for old DC!
 
Redskins_P's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Falls Church, VA
Age: 36
Posts: 4,086
I went w/ Samuels. He only allowed one sack, and has shown some commitment to Redskins. He wants to be here and I think he'll restructure.
Thomas is second simply because the guy has been solid ever since we picked him up last year. He also played injured.
Redskins_P is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2005, 01:49 PM   #12
What will Shanny do this offseason?
 
diehardskin2982's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 3,325
samuels was great but i chose brown because we signed him and he was able fill in where ever we needed him and hold down the line. that was great.
__________________
That got ugly fast
diehardskin2982 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2005, 01:55 PM   #13
Franchise Player
 
FRPLG's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2004
Age: 35
Posts: 9,958
Quote:
Originally Posted by BrudLee
This reminds me, Matty. We need a sarcasm button.
You get jokes!
FRPLG is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2005, 02:10 PM   #14
Impact Rookie
 
SkinsRock's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Crofton, MD
Age: 44
Posts: 907
I think Brown did an excellent job, especially considering his age, and is a great veteran leader, and Thomas had another very solid year, but I went with Samuels. He stepped up from his funk the last couple years and played well. He still isn't at the Pro Bowl level he once was, but he played with an injury all year and took a leadership role. Plus, only giving up one sack all year is impressive.
SkinsRock is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-21-2005, 02:17 PM   #15
Playmaker
 
BrudLee's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Rehoboth Beach, DE
Posts: 3,494
Samuels was a better tackle than Brown, but expectations should count for something here. Many of you voted against Portis, who had a 1300 yard season, because more was expected. My Brown vote was because we expect good things out of Samuels - with Brown, you expect a mentor and a locker room influence, not a starter.
__________________
There's nowhere to go but up. Or down. I guess we could stay where we are, too.
BrudLee is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 03:02 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.28452 seconds with 10 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25