Report: Fred Davis, Trent Williams suspended four games

GTripp0012 · 12-06-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

I think it's safe to say the Skins will have some serious leverage in negotiating a new deal with FD, and interest on the free agent market may be lukewarm at best for him.

I don't know. Santonio Holmes is a strike away from a year suspension and the Jets gave him $50 million.

There's two elite receiving TEs on the market this year, and Davis is one of them.

Ruhskins · 12-06-2011, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I don't know. Santonio Holmes is a strike away from a year suspension and the Jets gave him $50 million.

There's two elite receiving TEs on the market this year, and Davis is one of them.

I guess Holmes was a proven commodity and a SB winning WR. But I guess you are right on that one.

irish · 12-06-2011, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

I don't know. Santonio Holmes is a strike away from a year suspension and the Jets gave him $50 million.

There's two elite receiving TEs on the market this year, and Davis is one of them.

TEs are a dime a dozen and a big reason for FDs production is because the Skins WRs are so bad. I dont see the need to invest big $ in him.

GTripp0012 · 12-06-2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

TEs are a dime a dozen and a big reason for FDs production is because the Skins WRs are so bad. I dont see the need to invest big $ in him.

Well, bad TEs are quite cheap.

skinsfaninok · 12-06-2011, 04:40 PM

Davis, Williams officially suspended

Mechanix544 · 12-06-2011, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

TEs are a dime a dozen and a big reason for FDs production is because the Skins WRs are so bad. I dont see the need to invest big $ in him.

I partially agree, but if you can pair Fred Davis up with a young solid wide receiver and a capable young QB, this could become a pretty prolific offense in a rather short amount of time.

But I will say, he probably just sliced the salary he was going to make this offseason by at least 30%. Real boneheaded move. He is going to have the world record for most expensive joint ever......idiot.

mooby · 12-06-2011, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

When he was arrested in the summer of 2008 he was a pretty key figure in their defense.

But my point was more so that even the "best" organizations have players with issues much more major than getting caught smoking weed

I understand the similarity of two NFL organizations dealing with drug related suspensions to key players, but at the same time...

Meh, I'll be honest, I'm just tired right now and I don't feel like arguing semantics with you, because the whole "we're the only team that deals with shit like this" argument is weak shit anyways. W/e. I guess my only question at this point is how the f did Trent Williams earn a Captains patch? I don't even know how you can have the nerve to call yourself a leader of men when you do dumb shit like get caught doing drugs 3 f'n times in two seasons.

Mattyk · 12-06-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

Yep. He'll end up on the west coast. Probably with Carroll's Seahawks.

If you want to go that route he's from Ohio so...

NC_Skins · 12-06-2011, 07:23 PM

What do Skins do with these two dummies? - NFC East Blog - ESPN

Good article and good points.

No way we can rely on these guys in the near future. Trent is going to have to go about 10+ years without ever failing another drug test and quite honestly I don't believe he can. Davis won't last as long, but it's hard to imagine him not failing another one either. Can it be done? Sure. Chances are high they'll get caught again after already blowing 3 chances, and next time, it's going to be for a year. (even though it should be a year now)

NC_Skins · 12-06-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

Yep. He'll end up on the west coast. Probably with Carroll's Seahawks.

Why would they when they already signed a TE (Zach Miller) to a big contract?

Mattyk · 12-06-2011, 07:28 PM

It's a wake up call for both these guys. If losing 4 game checks and the threat of facing a year off doesn't do it for them, nothing will.

NC_Skins · 12-06-2011, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

It's a wake up call for both these guys. If losing 4 game checks and the threat of facing a year off doesn't do it for them, nothing will.

Well after the second failed test, it should have been the 4 game suspension and they still didn't learn. They are incredibly lucky they got a 4 game suspension this time instead of the mandatory year. I hope, for our sakes, that you are right.

Like somebody said prior. This had better been the best weed on the planet, because it's cost those guys millions of dollars.

KI Skins Fan · 12-06-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

What do Skins do with these two dummies? - NFC East Blog - ESPN

Good article and good points.

No way we can rely on these guys in the near future. Trent is going to have to go about 10+ years without ever failing another drug test and quite honestly I don't believe he can. Davis won't last as long, but it's hard to imagine him not failing another one either. Can it be done? Sure. Chances are high they'll get caught again after already blowing 3 chances, and next time, it's going to be for a year. (even though it should be a year now)

It is truly risky to believe that they have learned their lessons after 3 positive tests and that they won't be tested positive again and suspended for a year. Albert Einstein famously said: "The difference between genius and stupidity is; genius has its limits."

Mattyk · 12-06-2011, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Well after the second failed test, it should have been the 4 game suspension and they still didn't learn. They are incredibly lucky they got a 4 game suspension this time instead of the mandatory year. I hope, for our sakes, that you are right.

Like somebody said prior. This had better been the best weed on the planet, because it's cost those guys millions of dollars.

Some never truly learn until they have to face the music.

This is the first time they've had to suffer the consequences of their actions. Hopefully it's a valuable learning experience.

sdskinsfan2001 · 12-07-2011, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by GMScud

I heard on the radio this morning that only 11 guys in the entire league tested positive this season (not sure if they were referring to recreational drugs only, but I think so), and the only two players league-wide that will be suspended are on our team. Awesome.

Fred and Trent are freaking Harold & Kumar. You know you tested positive once. You continue to get high. You know you then failed a second test. And still you smoke weed.

Let's call it what it is. They're a couple of pathetic stoners. The more I've thought about this, the more annoyed I've gotten.

Me too man, I am more pissed off now than I was when I first found out. My official position now is that I don't want them to be part of the team. They are undependable, I don't care how talented they are. See ya. Get caught 3 damn times, and you KNOW the suspension is a year and say eff it I'm doing it anyways. Move Jamaal Brown back to left tackle and draft a right tackle in the 2nd round. Get Cooley back healthy and roll with him and Paulsen. I trust those guys as men and that is way more important than trusting an immature boy's talent.

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NC_Skins Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,405	Re: Report: Fred Davis, Trent Williams suspended four games What do Skins do with these two dummies? - NFC East Blog - ESPN Good article and good points. No way we can rely on these guys in the near future. Trent is going to have to go about 10+ years without ever failing another drug test and quite honestly I don't believe he can. Davis won't last as long, but it's hard to imagine him not failing another one either. Can it be done? Sure. Chances are high they'll get caught again after already blowing 3 chances, and next time, it's going to be for a year. (even though it should be a year now) __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

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