Report: Fred Davis, Trent Williams suspended four games

CrustyRedskin

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The Goat

Yes to all IMO. These players, especially in the case of Fred and Trent, are just kids and I think we (older folks) tend to forget that. More importantly, no franchise is locked in to drafting any particular player, so I think when a franchise chooses a particular player they acknowledge past history etc. For example: Trent's problematic history was well known if memory serves as opposed to the other top LT Okung.

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SmootSmack

We'll just agree to disagree on this I guess

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Giantone

SS, 125% right that they are acountable for their own actions!!!
Yet I disagree with you about LT,I beleive Parcells knew of LT's problems ..if not him others did.The ownership did not.Look I'm a real old time fan to the point of pissing off all the newbies that think LT is a running back for the Jets.After his las inccident I called the Giants officies and said he should be removed from the Giants"ring of Fame"....I also blame ..us the fans ....we want our teams to win at any price and when they get caught doing something wrong,we act holyer then though.I want the Giants to win but I want it done right ...to me if it means we don't make the playoffs ok then we need better people finding the better people.Yes I'm part of the problem.

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mooby

As one of Fred and Trent's generation, I may only speak for myself but I know I wouldn't be doing jack shit today if I had the personal accountability of those two. Unless they are the biggest idiots this side of the Mississippi, they had to know positive drug tests lead to suspensions. The fact that they kept doing it after the 2nd positive test indicates they really didn't give a shit. How hard is it to understand? Don't do drugs, and the odds are good that you can keep making serious bank at this point in your young career. Is a dimebag worth more than a contract of millions?

The Goat

I agree with you on personal responsibility. Maybe I should have said it like this: along with a lot of uninspired performances, suspect game/clock management and a string of bad decisions at QB I wonder if this drug issue might (also) reflect leadership issues.

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NC_Skins

Apples and oranges.

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SBXVII

Young or old makes no difference other then to say they are immature. Many a people join the military while young and most don't smoke weed. The ones that do get kicked out. Simple. Your either mature enough to know what not to do in order to keep you lively hood or you don't. Besides there are plenty of other "legal" ways to escape reality.....ie; beer, wine, liquor. There's no need to jeapordize your monitary income. Unless you really don't care about earning a nice living as they are.

mooby

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irish

The Nationals had pretty good success with the "babysitter" approach with Elijah Dukes. I actually think for TW it might be something to consider because of all the $ they have sunk into him and LTs are tough to get. Not for Davis though. TEs are a dime a dozen and he's easily replaceable.

itvnetop

You guys know what's scary? There are much harder recreational drugs out there that leave your system much faster than weed. I know people in the military that absolutely stay away from weed because of the random pop tests, but will roll (E) their asses off on a Saturday night. You don't think NFL players know that yay leaves their system in a day or two?

But fans only care when the punishments affect their team. Nobody really gives a hoot if one our of players are going Tony Montana one evening... because chances are, we're never going to find out.

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What....exactly do you base that statement on?

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12thMan

Freddy D has an active twitter account. He hasn't tweeted since the suspension came down though. This shit happens on every team. These guys were super careless and didn't give a shit about getting tested. Bottom line. Redskins having been getting high for as long as I've been following the team as a kid. And I have direct knowledge of some of the old school dudes getting high on a regular under Gibbs. But whatever.

I think this all goes with a culture of losing, quite frankly. When you're losing you simply care less. When you're winning your attitude is different and you're more focused. I suppose they go hand in hand.