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SmootSmack · 12-12-2011, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

haha,say what? Or your coach is a dumbass who wants to switch a top 5 4-3 defense to 3-4 for no reason,what a douche.Then theres Wade,a guy everyone on this forum made fun of,who took a last place Texans defense and switched with no offseason and has them #1,what has Haslet done?

Wait, so Shanahan is a douche for switching an aging 4-3 defense to a young 3-4 defense as part of an overall rebuilding process...yet Kubiak isn't one for switching a young 4-3 to a 3-4?

skinsfan69 · 12-12-2011, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

I had the unfortunate misfortune of watching the Titan/Saints game, inwhich there were 16 penalties called in the first half(most were overofficous ref calls). I guess the refs saw what an embarassment it was and only called 3 in the 2nd half.

16 in one half? wow.

skinsfan69 · 12-12-2011, 09:02 AM

as someone else mentioned, gotta give coughlin some props. but damn the guy looks like a miserable bastard!

SirClintonPortis · 12-12-2011, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

haha,say what? Or your coach is a dumbass who wants to switch a top 5 4-3 defense to 3-4 for no reason,what a douche.Then theres Wade,a guy everyone on this forum made fun of,who took a last place Texans defense and switched with no offseason and has them #1,what has Haslet done?

One, said coach has never done well in fielding his 4-3s in Denver during his last 4 years there(injuries did not help, either, but w/e).

Two, we're still in the top 10 in terms of yards given up even after the last game.

Ruhskins · 12-12-2011, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

One, said coach has never done well in fielding his 4-3s in Denver during his last 4 years there(injuries did not help, either, but w/e).

Two, we're still in the top 10 in terms of yards given up even after the last game.

I think the Patriots are a good example of how irrelevant defensive rankings are in the NFL. They may give up a ton of yards, but they have a lot of takeways and their defense is good at stopping opposing teams score in the redzone. Our defense needs a lot of work, but as I have repeatedly said, they need to use what they have and make it work.

SirClintonPortis · 12-12-2011, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I think the Patriots are a good example of how irrelevant defensive rankings are in the NFL. They may give up a ton of yards, but they have a lot of takeways and their defense is good at stopping opposing teams score in the redzone. Our defense needs a lot of work, but as I have repeatedly said, they need to use what they have and make it work.

One, Yards/G is a shitty stat, but people keep citing it when they say "top 10 defense". Our other categories are out of the top 10, except for our first downs given up per game(

).

EVEN SO, having their elite O is masking their glaring deficiencies(partly due to injuries wreaking thier secondary). Should Tom Brady have another 2007 Super Bowl moment and be tamed, this D of theirs will not pick up the slack.

Ruhskins · 12-12-2011, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

One, Yards/G is a shitty stat, but people keep citing it when they say "top 10 defense". Our other categories are out of the top 10, except for our first downs given up per game(

).

EVEN SO, having their elite O is masking their glaring deficiencies(partly due to injuries wreaking thier secondary). Should Tom Brady have another 2007 Super Bowl moment and be tamed, this D of theirs will not pick up the slack.

Oh no doubt. I really don't think the Patriots will do much in the playoffs. They will likely win the first round (since they'll play at home), but I can't see them beating the Steelers or the Ravens to get to the SB.

htownskinfan · 12-12-2011, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

Wait, so Shanahan is a douche for switching an aging 4-3 defense to a young 3-4 defense as part of an overall rebuilding process...yet Kubiak isn't one for switching a young 4-3 to a 3-4?

I knew you'd have somethin to say about this
Texans had a last place defense when they switched,we didn't
Plus we were paying a guy huge money to anchor a 4-3 defense
The move made absolutely no sense,defend it all you want

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Mattyk · 12-12-2011, 10:15 AM

We're still not over that 3-4 switch eh?

Ruhskins · 12-12-2011, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

We're still not over that 3-4 switch eh?

Nah man, it still hurts. LOL.

SmootSmack · 12-12-2011, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I knew you'd have somethin to say about this
Texans had a last place defense when they switched,we didn't
Plus we were paying a guy huge money to anchor a 4-3 defense
The move made absolutely no sense,defend it all you want

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Sometimes to make an omelette you have to break a few eggs, or whatever the expression is.

JoeRedskin · 12-12-2011, 10:28 AM

The good thing about Denver games is that you only have to watch the last quarter. All I got to say is that what Denver is doing is pretty f'ing amazing. This is not a "I love Tebow" statement. At the same time, however, he ignited something in the team. He did not complete a pass in the 2nd or 3rd quarter but then goes 15 of 20 in the 4th Q. I have watched the last 2 Denver games and they have a ferocious D. Regardless of your opinion of Tebow, the Denver games have been fun to watch these last few weeks - you can count on at least two or three "Holy sh**!! That did not just happen!!" moments.

Yesterday, for example, I watched Barber break the line on his way to a sure game winning run in OT - he had just about hit open ground, then "pop" the ball is bouncing around. I mean, seriously? The guy has had a total (both lost and recovered by his own team) of 15 fumbles in 1118 carries and 177 receptions. Not like the guy is known for the dropsies. I bet they make it to the AFC Championship - where the magic runs out.

I will say that I am glad we don't have Tebow. I think he is a one year wonder who, basically, will never be a good enough QB to win it all. Next year, Tebow Mania will come crashing down as teams have an off season to adjust.

CrustyRedskin · 12-12-2011, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

as someone else mentioned, gotta give coughlin some props. but damn the guy looks like a miserable bastard!

LMAO!! Doesnt he though!!!! He's a Crusty SOB!! I kinda like it, he gets old school on their asses and gets results

NC_Skins · 12-12-2011, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I knew you'd have somethin to say about this
Texans had a last place defense when they switched,we didn't
Plus we were paying a guy huge money to anchor a 4-3 defense
The move made absolutely no sense,defend it all you want

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Our "top 5" defense was a illusion. We never got any sacks or turnovers and had this "bend but not break" mindset. Our defense also could never hold a team in the last 2 minutes when it really counted. This was a paper defense, nothing more.

SirClintonPortis · 12-12-2011, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by htownskinfan

I knew you'd have somethin to say about this
Texans had a last place defense when they switched,we didn't
Plus we were paying a guy huge money to anchor a 4-3 defense
The move made absolutely no sense,defend it all you want

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Our performance in 2009 was slightly worse than in 2008, with said 40 million +incentives man being the "anchor". If said anchor was not with the D, then maybe our 2009 performance gets reduced from slightly worse to "much worse".

And we had NO SOLB going into 2010 either.

Not to mention Blache had a scheme that was basically multiple variants of prevent combined with predictable and easy-to-read blitzes.

12-12-2011, 09:02 AM	#198
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,103	Re: Around the NFL Week 14 as someone else mentioned, gotta give coughlin some props. but damn the guy looks like a miserable bastard!

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Mattyk ‎\m/ Join Date: Feb 2004 Age: 40 Posts: 72,653	Re: Around the NFL Week 14 We're still not over that 3-4 switch eh? __________________ Support The Warpath! \| Warpath Shop

12-12-2011, 10:28 AM	#207
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 50 Posts: 7,140	Re: Around the NFL Week 14 The good thing about Denver games is that you only have to watch the last quarter. All I got to say is that what Denver is doing is pretty f'ing amazing. This is not a "I love Tebow" statement. At the same time, however, he ignited something in the team. He did not complete a pass in the 2nd or 3rd quarter but then goes 15 of 20 in the 4th Q. I have watched the last 2 Denver games and they have a ferocious D. Regardless of your opinion of Tebow, the Denver games have been fun to watch these last few weeks - you can count on at least two or three "Holy sh**!! That did not just happen!!" moments. Yesterday, for example, I watched Barber break the line on his way to a sure game winning run in OT - he had just about hit open ground, then "pop" the ball is bouncing around. I mean, seriously? The guy has had a total (both lost and recovered by his own team) of 15 fumbles in 1118 carries and 177 receptions. Not like the guy is known for the dropsies. I bet they make it to the AFC Championship - where the magic runs out. I will say that I am glad we don't have Tebow. I think he is a one year wonder who, basically, will never be a good enough QB to win it all. Next year, Tebow Mania will come crashing down as teams have an off season to adjust. __________________ My Little Pony: Friendship is magic? or ... a repressive matriarchal society where individuals' roles are defined by their immutable physical characteristics and governance is reserved for those who demonstrate the genetic purity of the pony master race?

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