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Old 12-11-2011, 09:40 PM   #46
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Lol quake we can do that all day

Manning compared to JC is the same thing
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:48 PM   #47
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Lol quake we can do that all day

Manning compared to JC is the same thing
I got nothing but time

And how???
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Old 12-11-2011, 09:57 PM   #48
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Patriots)

Speaking for myself, I would prefer to win every week....always....every time....always, and let the draft order be damned. As has been mentioned GB, NO, NE, PIT....etc have done ok with it?
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Because manning was the 1st pick and is a HOF JC was a late 1st and sucks. It's not a given I never said that all I said was give me a top 5 pick all day because of the other rounds as well. If we had a good QB right now or a rookie I'd root to win these games and not care about a pick but we NEED a QB now and our chances at MB or RG3 will be by having a top 5 pick
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Patriots)

The only smack I have is for the refs. When is this crap going to stop? Just horrible calls on both sides. I was hoping that Fletcher was going to slap that ref across his face cause he deserved it. And the call on Carter was seriously the worst one I've ever seen. Some of those refs should've been fired after the game.
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The only smack I have is for the refs. When is this crap going to stop? Just horrible calls on both sides. I was hoping that Fletcher was going to slap that ref across his face cause he deserved it. And the call on Carter was seriously the worst one I've ever seen. Some of those refs should've been fired after the game.
The league is making the rules almost impossible to consistently enforce. None of it makes total sense and none of the crews call stuff the same. At some point they're going to have to face the fact that legislating injuries out of a contact sport isn't practical.
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The league is making the rules almost impossible to consistently enforce. None of it makes total sense and none of the crews call stuff the same. At some point they're going to have to face the fact that legislating injuries out of a contact sport isn't practical.
Unfortunately, morons like James Harrison and Suh continue to commit these penalties, causing the league to continue with this policy. I do feel that penalties that occur at fast speeds, should be reviewed. Like that PF on Fletcher, there's no way that you can look at it at full speed and determine exactly what happened.
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I don't wanna dis Orakpo, but don't know what else to say about it. Guess I could just say how worried I am. This kid who looked like he could/would be a Ware type game-changer was almost absent, especially in the 2nd half. My hope: he's just tired of the tired and lackluster leadership from the sidelines. There is nothing inspiring about Jim Haslett's scheme or his style. Neither do I believe he truly has the respect of the players. Williams' defense played more inspired even when the offense was nearly as bad as this year's. And the Shanahans...ok, I won't go there today.

Yeah D. Hall. Let him walk w/ Landry (and Haslett and the Shanahans).
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I don't wanna dis Orakpo, but don't know what else to say about it. Guess I could just say how worried I am. This kid who looked like he could/would be a Ware type game-changer was almost absent, especially in the 2nd half. My hope: he's just tired of the tired and lackluster leadership from the sidelines. There is nothing inspiring about Jim Haslett's scheme or his style. Neither do I believe he truly has the respect of the players. Williams' defense played more inspired even when the offense was nearly as bad as this year's. And the Shanahans...ok, I won't go there today.

Yeah D. Hall. Let him walk w/ Landry (and Haslett and the Shanahans).
Haslett has been given a lot of resources and he needs to figure out how to make this defense works period. The FO has spent a lot on the defense and now it is time for them to spend resources on the offense. Keep everyone, don't create any holes, and make it work.
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Haslett has been given a lot of resources and he needs to figure out how to make this defense works period. The FO has spent a lot on the defense and now it is time for them to spend resources on the offense. Keep everyone, don't create any holes, and make it work.
The defense all around is fine. One of the weaknesses I've seen all season is the corners D. Hall and J. Wilson can't defend the pass. They allow receivers to get open. I like the Redskins defensive line and the linebackers, which are a hardcore group with Perry Riley, London Fletcher, Ryan Kerrigan, and Brian Orakpo. The secondary is weak though. This is an area of concern and needs to be looked into next offseason.

The offense will come together. Once the Redskins land their QB in the draft, then 60 % of the problems on offense will be fixed. I like our RB situation with Helu, and Evan Royster could contribute to the running game in the future. Have the coaches given up on Ryan Torain? I still think he can contribute. Our WR core is sound with Moss, Gaffney, Hankerson, and Stallworth. Add Fred Davis and Chris Cooley and the Redskins will have a dynamic passing attack.
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The offense will come together. Once the Redskins land their QB in the draft, then 60 % of the problems on offense will be fixed. I like our RB situation with Helu, and Evan Royster could contribute to the running game in the future. Have the coaches given up on Ryan Torain? I still think he can contribute. Our WR core is sound with Moss, Gaffney, Hankerson, and Stallworth. Add Fred Davis and Chris Cooley and the Redskins will have a dynamic passing attack.
I actually hope they have given up on Torain. So-so vision, no top-end agility or speed(a must since our OL gets blown up quite a few times), and very little power. He doesn't contribute on special teams, either.
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Old 12-12-2011, 03:27 AM   #57
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What? It wasn't mindless, its true. Wake up buddy, because I'm watching the same DHall I've been seeing for the past 3 years with us, he s the one who doesn't tackle well and gets beat. If you watched the game today, you'll see he stood there like a statue when Gronkowski had that huge run along the sideline with broken tackles. And again, if you saw the same game I saw today, DHalls penalties cost us on some drives, like I dunno maybe throwing an officials flag is a penalty?

He said a few weeks ago that he deserves to be cut. I say after this year we grant him his wish, because he isn't a positive to our defense or team.

And for those who question my earlier post saying I was two-sided on this post; I'll elaborate some more.

I'm a numbers/percentage/chance kind of guy. The higher we draft, the better player we get. It's historically proven that if you draft in the top 5 you have a > chance of getting a better player than say the top 10. Lets be real Skins fans, this team we have isn't good. We all can agree we need a QB. Best case 3 'great' ones come out; worst case 1 comes out. We need a QB to win us games. We can win games now, but its all a bunch of BS that we can build on that for next season. Players come and go. Its a whole 7(atleast) months until those players get back on the field. Half of them won't even remember or care that they won or lost, they want to get their season started, to start a new. So really skins fans, you say you shouldn't wish for your team to lose, but when you've nearly hit rock bottom, what is, say, one win going to do, especially if its another crap team. "Oh we suck, but we aren't the 1st crappy team in the league, we're the 3rd out of 32 teams..."

I'm bashing this team to point out to others what some major weaknesses are that we have which we still don't fix, year after, year after year.

I honestly am bitter sweet about this game because I hate the patriots more than I hate the cowboys. If we had beaten them I would have been happy only because we had hurt there chances from being a bye team to a wildcard team. And because we defeated the Mr. Perfect Tom Brady. But at the same token, no one picked us to win this game, so it was expected for us to lose, And we would have hurt our draft position by as many as 4 spots. If we have to trade up to get a good QB like Barkley or Griffin, that's more future players we trade away pick wise to get one of those guys...
Nah.. D Hall is solid. I enjoy watching him play
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I actually hope they have given up on Torain. So-so vision, no top-end agility or speed(a must since our OL gets blown up quite a few times), and very little power. He doesn't contribute on special teams, either.
Well, I certainly hope that Mike Shanahan hasn't given up on Ryan Torain. I like Torain. If you look at how he ran the ball last season, he was very effective. But in the NFL, it's all about what have you done for me lately. Torain had a great game against the Rams when he bulldozed for lots of rushing yardage, but has rode the pine after being ineffective in a couple of games. Honestly, I think Mike Shanahan is evaluating his running backs and realizes what he already has in Torain. Evan Royster, I'm thinking, will get a long look during these final weeks of the season.
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Unfortunately, morons like James Harrison and Suh continue to commit these penalties, causing the league to continue with this policy. I do feel that penalties that occur at fast speeds, should be reviewed. Like that PF on Fletcher, there's no way that you can look at it at full speed and determine exactly what happened.
That hit on Harrison wasn't even to McCoy's head though. You could argue that it was late but it wasn't helmet to helmet. It's like everytime a QB gets hit hard the refs throw a flag.
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Orakpo and Kerrigan 1 tackle each. wow.
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