Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Patriots)

REDSKINS4ever · 12-12-2011, 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by SirClintonPortis

I actually hope they have given up on Torain. So-so vision, no top-end agility or speed(a must since our OL gets blown up quite a few times), and very little power. He doesn't contribute on special teams, either.

Well, I certainly hope that Mike Shanahan hasn't given up on Ryan Torain. I like Torain. If you look at how he ran the ball last season, he was very effective. But in the NFL, it's all about what have you done for me lately. Torain had a great game against the Rams when he bulldozed for lots of rushing yardage, but has rode the pine after being ineffective in a couple of games. Honestly, I think Mike Shanahan is evaluating his running backs and realizes what he already has in Torain. Evan Royster, I'm thinking, will get a long look during these final weeks of the season.

skinsfan69 · 12-12-2011, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

Unfortunately, morons like James Harrison and Suh continue to commit these penalties, causing the league to continue with this policy. I do feel that penalties that occur at fast speeds, should be reviewed. Like that PF on Fletcher, there's no way that you can look at it at full speed and determine exactly what happened.

That hit on Harrison wasn't even to McCoy's head though. You could argue that it was late but it wasn't helmet to helmet. It's like everytime a QB gets hit hard the refs throw a flag.

CrustyRedskin · 12-12-2011, 08:13 AM

Orakpo and Kerrigan 1 tackle each. wow.

irish · 12-12-2011, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Bucket

Nah.. D Hall is solid. I enjoy watching him play

Hall is a bum. Hopefully he only has 3 more games in a Redskins uniform.

skinsfan69 · 12-12-2011, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Orakpo and Kerrigan 1 tackle each. wow.

Very disappointing. These two were nowhere to be found yesterday.

Ruhskins · 12-12-2011, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

What? It wasn't mindless, its true. Wake up buddy, because I'm watching the same DHall I've been seeing for the past 3 years with us, he s the one who doesn't tackle well and gets beat. If you watched the game today, you'll see he stood there like a statue when Gronkowski had that huge run along the sideline with broken tackles. And again, if you saw the same game I saw today, DHalls penalties cost us on some drives, like I dunno maybe throwing an officials flag is a penalty?

See I am not a Hall apologist, but I am just amazed at how much people hate on him for stupid things. If you look at that play from Hall's perspective, it looked like Gomes and Doughty were going to push Gronkowski out of bounds. At full speed, it looked like Gronkowski was going out of bounds, if Halls leap towards him and Gronkowski is out of bounds, that's a 15-yard PF. BTW, it was Hall that eventually ran down Gronkowski during that play.

The flag thing was a stupid mistake and he deserves all the heat for it. But where is the Haynesworth/McNabb treatment for Hall from Shanahan, if he's such a team cancer? Shouldn't Shanahan have benched Hall the same way he benched Williams for that stupid PF during the Eagles game? Once again, I am not apologizing for the guy, but I feel that some people blow his situation out of proportion.

Hall is what he is and it sucks. As a player he is very frustrating b/c he can go from making a good play on moment and making a terrible player the next. One thing is criticizing the guy for this, another is to this childish/girlish/pouty hate for the guy and b*tch at every single thing he does. Take that mindless sh*t elsewhere.

Ruhskins · 12-12-2011, 09:49 AM

I'd like to add a smack down to Shanahan for not benching Hall after the flag incident. I thought he did well when he benched Williams for the personal foul in the Philly game. While I understand players were frustrated with the refs (London Fletcher came within seconds of getting flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct, although I can't blame the guy for reacting the way he did), he's basically letting the flag situation slide. There was no need for that and he is allowing that type of behavior to go unpunished.

SmootSmack · 12-12-2011, 09:53 AM

As Ruh said, I'm not really going to hate on Hall for that Gronk run. I mean it looked like the play was dead. Even Wes Welker, who never ever accuses of being lazy, was basically loafing and not trying to block Hall out of the way until everyone realized Gronk was still in bounds.

skinsfan69 · 12-12-2011, 10:12 AM

I'd also like to mention that Fed Ex Field has basically become a home game for the opposing team. Very very sad.

GTripp0012 · 12-12-2011, 11:09 AM

Orakpo strikes me as someone who is contented to do things one way because doing them that way has gotten him to the level he is now. And I think really good, fundamentally sound, offensive tackles who have good footwork and balance, can use their size advantages against him to take him out of the game.

When we blitz, Orakpo typically gets home to the quarterback before anyone else in the rush scheme. He takes on the back really well, and is still likely our best pure pass rusher. He is not the complete player that Ryan Kerrigan is, and the truth is that based on the position he plays in our defense, he needs to be more complete than Kerrigan because he is asked to do more.

Chico23231 · 12-12-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

As Ruh said, I'm not really going to hate on Hall for that Gronk run. I mean it looked like the play was dead. Even Wes Welker, who never ever accuses of being lazy, was basically loafing and not trying to block Hall out of the way until everyone realized Gronk was still in bounds.

Im gonna hate more on our safeties for that play, but still doesnt excuse Hall. How can two NFL safeties not able to tackle one tight end? I mean wft planet do i live on where that safety play is deem acceptable.

CrustyRedskin · 12-12-2011, 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfan69

I'd also like to mention that Fed Ex Field has basically become a home game for the opposing team. Very very sad.

Yeah its terrible, and i dont understand it. I do know that Pats, Phili, Giants Ravens, have had much more success in the area but like when Dallas is in town it wtf? Why why, id give my tickets away befor i sold them to opposing supporters. Snyder should do something about that.

NC_Skins · 12-12-2011, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by CrustyRedskin

Snyder should do something about that.

What exactly should he do?

12thMan · 12-12-2011, 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DynamiteRave

I like Sellers but I think he'll either hang it up or get cut after this season. The guy is old and doesn't get much play time anymore. It's been a good run Mike, but I think you're done.

Orakpo was invisible yet again. I mean... ??? What's going on? No pressure. Not being in on any tackles? Is he really as good as we think he is or is he just going to be a flash in the pan? 1 break out season and then falls into obscurity? I'm really hoping its the former and not the latter.

I've been saying all season Rak is a little overrated. Is he thinking about Geico too much? I dunno, I wouldn't trade him or anything but something's going on with him. I wonder if he's been 100% this year. A few games he would pull himself out, get stretched on the sidelines and come back in a few plays later. Just saying.

irish · 12-12-2011, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

As Ruh said, I'm not really going to hate on Hall for that Gronk run. I mean it looked like the play was dead. Even Wes Welker, who never ever accuses of being lazy, was basically loafing and not trying to block Hall out of the way until everyone realized Gronk was still in bounds.

Like they teach you in Pee Wee football, play until you hear the whistle. No matter how dead the play looked there was no whistle and no reason for Hall to let up. Welker didnt try to block Hall because he could tell Hall had already quit on the play and therefore didnt need to "waste" time blocking Hall.

12-12-2011, 08:13 AM	#63
CrustyRedskin The Starter Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: RatherbeinDC, TX Posts: 2,008	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Patriots) Orakpo and Kerrigan 1 tackle each. wow. __________________ But you know the sun's settin' fast, and just like they say, nothing good ever lasts.

12-12-2011, 09:49 AM	#67
Ruhskins Gamebreaker Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Columbia, MD Age: 34 Posts: 14,614	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Patriots) I'd like to add a smack down to Shanahan for not benching Hall after the flag incident. I thought he did well when he benched Williams for the personal foul in the Philly game. While I understand players were frustrated with the refs (London Fletcher came within seconds of getting flagged for unsportsmanlike conduct, although I can't blame the guy for reacting the way he did), he's basically letting the flag situation slide. There was no need for that and he is allowing that type of behavior to go unpunished. __________________ R.I.P. #21 New words created on The Warpath: Rewalsr - Somretimes - Fualt - Jersesy - Itiot - Composetory Afeard - Storgn - Empliment - Gaissn - Saftys - Minnisota Faviort - Hatter - Phsyched - Foof - Heloing - Brutual Stroried Check out this cool local internet radio show Weds 7-9pm: The DC Sports Chat I sense an annoyance in the Force

12-12-2011, 09:53 AM	#68
SmootSmack The Bluths Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 43,222	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Patriots) As Ruh said, I'm not really going to hate on Hall for that Gronk run. I mean it looked like the play was dead. Even Wes Welker, who never ever accuses of being lazy, was basically loafing and not trying to block Hall out of the way until everyone realized Gronk was still in bounds. __________________ You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You

12-12-2011, 10:12 AM	#69
skinsfan69 Franchise Player Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Arlington, VA. Posts: 8,126	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Patriots) I'd also like to mention that Fed Ex Field has basically become a home game for the opposing team. Very very sad.

12-12-2011, 11:09 AM	#70
GTripp0012 Living Legend Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Age: 25 Posts: 15,152	Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Patriots) Orakpo strikes me as someone who is contented to do things one way because doing them that way has gotten him to the level he is now. And I think really good, fundamentally sound, offensive tackles who have good footwork and balance, can use their size advantages against him to take him out of the game. When we blitz, Orakpo typically gets home to the quarterback before anyone else in the rush scheme. He takes on the back really well, and is still likely our best pure pass rusher. He is not the complete player that Ryan Kerrigan is, and the truth is that based on the position he plays in our defense, he needs to be more complete than Kerrigan because he is asked to do more. __________________ Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

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