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Old 12-12-2011, 02:28 PM   #91
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Re: Smoot Lays the Smack Down (Redskins vs. Patriots)

Smack Down:

Rex Grossman: Sorry, but Rex Grossman does deserve some smack down. His pocket presence is down right awful - and that resulted in a New England defensive TD. I love the fact that he can come back from an awful play and make a great play - he was making some awesome plays against the Patriots - but those bad plays often tend to be really, really bad plays.

Ryan Kerrigan: Easily my favorite Redskins player right now (but Roy Helu is moving up pretty darn quickly) but come on man, RK you have GOT to make that tackle! That was just plain embarrassing. Then again, it may not be completely his fault. I think he's playing almost every single snap, and he just appeared to be spent.

Brian Orakpo: Did you play today?

DeAngelo Hall: Come on man - your actions on the field makes absolutely NO SENSE whatsoever. Why did you even think it was a great idea to pick up the ref's flag and throw it? If you want to throw flags that much, retire and become an official. Otherwise, you're hurting our team!

But as for studs:

Brandon Banks: For throwing like a girl (I'm just teasing ya) but making a great play to Santana Moss. I'd love to see more stuff like this from the Redskins.

To our rookies on the offensive line: A little shaky at first, but a real solid day after that. Sure, the defense of the Patriots is a bit soft, but I thought you guys stepped up and played pretty solid - especially in place of J. Brown and T. Williams not playing.

Roy Helu: WOW! Just, WOW!!!
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Old 12-12-2011, 08:36 PM   #92
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The last thing that I will say about this issue is that even his biggest critics will admit that Hall always gives it all on the field. And no he doesn't stand there, if you see the video both Hall and Welker were running towards the play and stop right when it appears that Gronkowski was out of bounds. I don't think anyone realized Gronkowski had not stepped out of bounds, even Welker. Once again, I think people are completely blowing this out of proportion and it shows people like to complaining for the sake of complaining.

As I said, I'm not a Hall apologist and he did his share of mistakes (as did a lot of people) on Sunday the deserves plenty of criticism. But please don't come to me with this bullsh*t argument and expect not to get called out on it.
The last thing I'm going to say on this is I was just watching C'Mon Man on MNF, and guess who made it and on what play...DHall, and not on the flag throwing play, on the Not Tackling Gronkowski play. You seem to be the only person who is defending this guy...Are you DHall? So no, my argument isn't BS, its perfectly acceptable considering there are many people in my boat towards him sucking on that play than you making excuses that "Oh he thought he was going out of bounds." Look at ESPN's replay, Gronkowski was a good couple of yards away from the sideline with DHall just standing there. Get you eyes checked man, I had to look again after you said he "looked like he wasn't going to be pushed out of bounds and Dhall didn't want to get a PF for late hit out of bounds"
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The last thing I'm going to say on this is I was just watching C'Mon Man on MNF, and guess who made it and on what play...DHall, and not on the flag throwing play, on the Not Tackling Gronkowski play. You seem to be the only person who is defending this guy...Are you DHall? So no, my argument isn't BS, its perfectly acceptable considering there are many people in my boat towards him sucking on that play than you making excuses that "Oh he thought he was going out of bounds." Look at ESPN's replay, Gronkowski was a good couple of yards away from the sideline with DHall just standing there. Get you eyes checked man, I had to look again after you said he "looked like he wasn't going to be pushed out of bounds and Dhall didn't want to get a PF for late hit out of bounds"
You think what you want to think, I have criticized Hall a lot (hell, I think he should've been benched for the flag incident), I just think people are blowing this out of proportion. Meanwhile the guys that completely whiffed on the play, Gomes and Doughty, are not even being discussed.

So keep with your whining complaints, I mean after all it seems that every year you find yourself rooting against the Redskins. No wonder every now and then I call you a Cowboys fan. Shouldn't you be posting another Suck for Luck thread? But whatever, I guess you must be upset b/c your team choked against the Giants yesterday.
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The last thing I'm going to say on this is I was just watching C'Mon Man on MNF, and guess who made it and on what play...DHall, and not on the flag throwing play, on the Not Tackling Gronkowski play. You seem to be the only person who is defending this guy...Are you DHall? So no, my argument isn't BS, its perfectly acceptable considering there are many people in my boat towards him sucking on that play than you making excuses that "Oh he thought he was going out of bounds." Look at ESPN's replay, Gronkowski was a good couple of yards away from the sideline with DHall just standing there. Get you eyes checked man, I had to look again after you said he "looked like he wasn't going to be pushed out of bounds and Dhall didn't want to get a PF for late hit out of bounds"
I support Ruhskin's argument. I think in today's league, there are a lot of defensive players who stop and think twice about hitting a guy they think is going down, because they know if they hit them after they're down or out of bounds that's an automatic 15 yard penalty. Gronk had two guys on his back, is it reasonable to expect two pro football players to be able to take one guy down? Absolutely. And using "c'mon man" as evidence of what not to do is weak shit. I would never use some dumb talking head's opinion to back up any argument of mine, unless I was talking about what idiot talking heads think.
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It was on c'mon man... Tough to argue with that

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It seems to me that the officials are over protecting the quarterback during this era. I remember way back in the days, when the QB was hit, there was nothing wrong with it. Now, if a QB is even knocked down when the defender barely touches him, then it's a personal foul and 15 yards are marched off. Even when a QB scrambles and slides to the turf, if a defender delivers a hit while the QB is in the process of sliding, then it's results in a personal foul- much like Fletcher's hit on Brady yesterday.

Brady wasn't even down when Fletcher hit him, yet the refs called a personal foul.
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It was on c'mon man... Tough to argue with that

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Reminds me of that guy a season or two ago, that kept saying "Look at the video!!! The proof is in the video!!!" in regards to Jason Campbell's QB play. LOL.

What was that guy's name? I can't remember it...I do remember him getting banned for just going nuts with his argument. LOL.
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So is C'Mon Man a MNF rip off of Ed Lover's C'Mon Son? LOL!

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Even Mike Shanahan is disappointed in Hall:

Mike Shanahan disappointed with DeAngelo Hall
By Mike Jones

Washington Redskins Coach Mike Shanahan expressed disappointment in cornerback and defensive captain DeAngelo Hall for costing the team with an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty against the Patriots and for quitting on a play that led to a long New England gain.

Hall, an eight-year veteran, racked up 20 yards in penalties on one third-quarter play, helping fuel a Patriots scoring drive that resulted in them taking a 27-20 lead.


Patriots wide receiver Wes Welker (83), right, drags Redskins cornerback DeAngelo Hall (23) into the end zone on the game-winning touchdown catch Sunday.(John McDonnell/The Washington Post)Hall initially was called for a five-yard defensive holding as he tried to cover Wes Welker, and unhappy with the penalty, Hall walked over to the flag, picked it up and chucked it back up the field at nobody in particular. Four referees immediately threw their flags at Hall. The unsportsmanlike conduct penalty earned the Patriots another 15 yards.

The ball was placed on the Washington 46-yard line, and five plays later, Tom Brady completed a 37-yard touchdown pass to Rob Gronkowski.
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Shanahan: Redskins “embarrassed” by failing to tackle Gronkowski | ProFootballTalk

Again..I'm not the only one here...
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Good for you. Now go back to root against our team.

I would like for anyone who makes a big deal out of this two answer these two questions:

A.) Isn't it a bigger deal that two of our safeties (not one, but TWO) failed to bring down Gronkowski? They couldn't even push him out of bounds!!

and...

B.) Hall is not a good tackler, any chance he brings down Gronkowski on a head-on tackle?
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Good for you. Now go back to root against our team.
You try and pin me as a cowboys fan with 'disses' and 'comebacks' of a 4th grader just calling me "cowboys fan, cowboys fan!" without having a man to man conversation. I've just proved to you I'm way more intelligent than you with how you handle a debate topic; you get beat and do the old 'whatever you're a cowboys fan go suck for luck.'

And again Mr. 12 year old, I'm not a cowboys fan nor will I ever be. And yeah God forbid I want us to get a Great QB like Andrew Luck. You realize you are the only person on this board who is continually defending DHall for not tackling Gronk yesterday. Sure the other two skins Gomes and Doughty, didn't tackle him well, but at least they made efforts! If Hall made an effort I wouldn't be here repeatedly trying to bang this into your head.

DeAngelo Hall watches two teammates not tackle Rob Gronkowski - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post theres a breakdown for those who may be legally blind.
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You try and pin me as a cowboys fan with 'disses' and 'comebacks' of a 4th grader just calling me "cowboys fan, cowboys fan!" without having a man to man conversation. I've just proved to you I'm way more intelligent than you with how you handle a debate topic; you get beat and do the old 'whatever you're a cowboys fan go suck for luck.'

And again Mr. 12 year old, I'm not a cowboys fan nor will I ever be. And yeah God forbid I want us to get a Great QB like Andrew Luck. You realize you are the only person on this board who is continually defending DHall for not tackling Gronk yesterday. Sure the other two skins Gomes and Doughty, didn't tackle him well, but at least they made efforts! If Hall made an effort I wouldn't be here repeatedly trying to bang this into your head.

I'm done.
Bad tackling is a problem with this team. So you are saying that it is okay to have sorry a$$ tacklers as long as they try? Really? The guy that you are accusing makes a lot of mistakes but he tries (well in the past he has), shouldn't he be okay in your book by your definition?

Finally, I am not defending Hall, just saying that it is stupid for someone to focus on him, when we have two guys (Gomes and Doughty) who took a huge dump by failing to tackle Gronk on that play.
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Since I'm a Hall hater why not pile it on:

DeAngelo Hall watches two teammates not tackle Rob Gronkowski - DC Sports Bog - The Washington Post

There's a reason Atlanta and Oakland cut him. Personal fouls at the worst moments of the game and he can't cover and has diarrhea of the mouth.
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You're late. LOL.

By the way, I thought about you probably throwing something at the screen when your boy got flagged for that stupid unsportsmanlike conduct. I wouldn't have blamed you if you did.
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