The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

redskin29633 · 12-31-2011, 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by GusFrerotte

Sanchez sucks period. Most commentators out there have even said he has regressed some this season. Pick a young guy from a mid level NCAA Div I school that faced superior competition at least for half of the season and performed well. Sanchez wasn't really that good at USC, but since the big push to draw latinos into the NFL he became their golden boy. Only trouble was he really wasn't so hot. Thinking a mediocre QB can come in here and work wonders for us is moronic. We all thought Ramsey sucked and loved when we got JC, he was mediocre, and we got McNabb, he was also mediocre and we got Grossman as our backup, now starter who has potential, but still sucks. When will the lunacy end? Do you really think Sanchez is all that? Draft a kid with some great potential and get some big beef up front to protect him. Andrew Luck behind a shitty line will suck. Ryan Tannehill or even a Dan Persa will kick ass with a great line. You give up 3-4 picks for Luck and you will postpone the building up of a great O line, and get nothing much in return. And that is if Luck even is indeed NFL caliber!!

I think your last point is especially important. We really don't know if Luck or any of these QB prospects are NFL caliber players. Any or all of them could be busts as NFL QB's. Not a good idea to trade up to get any of them. We have heard Shanahan admit that Redskin depth is really lacking. We traded down last year just to get some bodies who could play professional football. We still need bodies at sevearal positions. I can't see a trade up because it works against our effort to (re)build the team. A better option for Redskins is to sign Hoyer/Quinn/Henne as FA QB and throw him into the mix with Grossman. Take our draft picks as they come and continue building the team. Tannehill would be an excellent draft option for us! He could spend the year learning the offense while management fills more of the holes left by previous indiscretions in player personnel decisions.

SBXVII · 12-31-2011, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by The Goat

If there's chance of paralysis I'm also sure he retires. He's going to add more SB rings as a coach anyway. Hell...I'd taking Manning as a rookie HC next year over Mike any day of the week.

I don't think I'd replace MS, but I would replace the QB coach and give P.Manning a shot. Heck who knows he might get taken as a OC in the future. But baby steps. I don't forsee him getting a HCing job with out having any coaching experience. His knoweledge would be invaluable to the team.

SolidSnake84 · 12-31-2011, 09:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

^ I have actually been pretty suprised about the talk of P.Manning being traded to play football elsewhere, because I thought after his neck surgery I read somewhere that basically P.Manning has a disease that has been passed down through genes and his brother has the same disease.

After having the surgery it is completely risky for him to play because if he gets hit the wrong way he could be paralized. To which is why he has not been seen on the field yet. What ever happened to that? It sounded like he would not be able to play ... ever in the future for fear of getting hit wrong and now all this talk of him being traded.

I just don't see him playing ball at all. After hearing about his condition I was 100% sure he would probably have to take on a coaching job or leave football all together.

This is still the story we are being given. Peyton was tested for the same condition, spinal stenosis, that his brother Cooper had, which ended his career as a college wide receiver. The doctors could not say for sure whether or not Peyton's condition was genetic. But they didn't deny it.

The Colts know that Manning will never be physically right. He is too much of a risk to put on the field, so i believe the trade is in part just to appease Manning who is still expressing a desire to play.

I think behind the scenes, the Colts have said to Peyton "Peyton we want you to retire, it is not worth it to us to see you paralyzed on the field. You will always be a Colt and there will always be a job for you here"

I believe he could have retorted saying he felt he could still play, so the Colts told him if he was insistant on playing, they would trade him and his contract to any team that was willing to play the price, knowing full well that Peyton probably won't pass the team physical, which as far as I know would void out any payment / salary, if he is physically unable to play.

He's a smart guy, i'm surprised kind of that he is willing to play at only 60 or 70% health. I know his mind is better than any other QB out there, but i'm shocked he is trying to return to the game when he knows he physically isn't there anymore.

12thMan · 01-01-2012, 01:32 PM

Rumor coming out of Indy that RG3 might be the Colts man if they pick at number #2.

SkinzWin · 01-01-2012, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by 12thMan

Rumor coming out of Indy that RG3 might be the Colts man if they pick at number #2.

Could be a smoke screen to get a trade offer...

CultBrennan59 · 01-01-2012, 03:16 PM

Well at this rate, should the Jags win, Colts ARE getting Luck.

SkinzWin · 01-01-2012, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Well at this rate, should the Jags win, Colts ARE getting Luck.

Does Indy have a weaker strength of schedule? If they both have two wins, and St. Louis has a weaker strength of schedule, they could still pick first.

Dirtbag59 · 01-01-2012, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Well at this rate, should the Jags win, Colts ARE getting Luck.

Good. We had little chance of getting him anyway and this way he stays out of the NFC.

mooby · 01-01-2012, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

Well at this rate, should the Jags win, Colts ARE getting Luck.

Damn jags. Screw the AFC South.

SkinzWin · 01-01-2012, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinzWin

Does Indy have a weaker strength of schedule? If they both have two wins, and St. Louis has a weaker strength of schedule, they could still pick first.

I answered my own question. Should both Indianapolis and St. Louis lose today here is how their strength of schedules stack up.

Through week 16:

Indianapolis Colts 128-112-0 .533

St. Louis Rams 141-99-0 .588

Based on the strength of schedules, Indy would have the #1 overall pick....

CultBrennan59 · 01-01-2012, 05:17 PM

So I think we can stop talking about Luck...But that probably means we can start talking about Matt Flynn

redskinsskickazz · 01-02-2012, 10:45 AM

with all the quarterbacks available this year either between the draft or free agency, if we end up with mark sanchez i will lose my mind.

just think about the logic behind it.

the jets drafted him early in the first and he is still young.
they would be letting him go for a 35 year old quarterback coming off a major injury, what the hell does that tell you about him.

my dream scenario this year would be for the colts to take luck and release manning.

we sign manning as a free agent trade back once or twice to acquire more picks like we did last year and draft tannehill to groom under manning

mbedner3420 · 01-02-2012, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by diehard

The Sanchez rumor should've stayed under the rock where it came from.

I agree. Damn that Smootsmack for doing what we all asked him to do and give us a window into the mind of the Redskins front office. Screw him! /sarcasm

skinsfaninok · 01-02-2012, 11:21 AM

Sanchez is now considered a bust

SFREDSKIN · 01-02-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by skinsfaninok

Sanchez is now considered a bust

If he's consider a bust I would offer a 5th or 4th and take my chances with him, I bet he can change things around with Kyle. There's a reason Shottenheimer is going to get whacked in NY, he sucks!!

01-01-2012, 01:32 PM	#169
12thMan MVP Join Date: May 2005 Location: washington, D.C. Posts: 11,363	Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be... Rumor coming out of Indy that RG3 might be the Colts man if they pick at number #2.

01-01-2012, 03:16 PM	#171
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,568	Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be... Well at this rate, should the Jags win, Colts ARE getting Luck. __________________ When in doubt, go with the SEC

01-01-2012, 05:17 PM	#176
CultBrennan59 Pro Bowl Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,568	Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be... So I think we can stop talking about Luck...But that probably means we can start talking about Matt Flynn __________________ When in doubt, go with the SEC

01-02-2012, 10:45 AM	#177
redskinsskickazz Special Teams Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: erving ma Posts: 155	Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be... with all the quarterbacks available this year either between the draft or free agency, if we end up with mark sanchez i will lose my mind. just think about the logic behind it. the jets drafted him early in the first and he is still young. they would be letting him go for a 35 year old quarterback coming off a major injury, what the hell does that tell you about him. my dream scenario this year would be for the colts to take luck and release manning. we sign manning as a free agent trade back once or twice to acquire more picks like we did last year and draft tannehill to groom under manning

01-02-2012, 11:21 AM	#179
skinsfaninok Gamebreaker Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Norman, OK Age: 26 Posts: 12,979	Sanchez is now considered a bust __________________ Robert Griffin III "if you're good at something, never do it for free"- The Joker

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