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Old 01-17-2012, 12:35 PM   #301
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Don't know if any of you heard Mike and Mike this morning, but I will fill you in on what John Clayton reported during the show.

The Colts as of this moment are willing to keep Manning and draft Luck. As well as pay Manning's contract. Irsay, the new GM, and Caldwell are all on board with keeping PM. So there is our answer folks Manning will either retire or be a Colt. The three I mentioned above do not want to release Manning and be the ones to run Manning out of town.

As far as the coaching option, I do not see Manning coaching anywhere but with Indy. #1 He has a good relationship with Luck #2 He does not wnat out of Indy #3 He really likes his roots there.

So as cool as this sounded just a short while ago, this is not going to happen.

Good news for Manning and the Redskins in my opinion. This has always been what made the most sense for the Colts.

Whats interesting to me is that you say Manning and Luck have a good relationship with each other? I wonder how that came about or how/if that will change once Luck becomes Manning's backup/replacement.


Also im almost certain that ive heard before that Manning isnt really a guy that spends time teaching and coaching up his back ups, much like weve heard about Farve. Has anyone heard the same thing or know if thats true?

I would think the only way Indy pays him the 28 million in March is if Manning agrees to work with Luck and and has a transition plan. Either that or Indy is planning on taking Luck and auctioning him to the highest bidder. If Manning is really healthly or gets completely healthy he could be a QB for 4 more years.
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Old 01-17-2012, 12:39 PM   #302
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

Going from a healthy Manning (assuming he is) to a unproven Luck would be a step back or two for the colts.

What they could get for that first pick good easily boost this team back up and ride Manning for a few more years.
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Good news for Manning and the Redskins in my opinion. This has always been what made the most sense for the Colts.

Whats interesting to me is that you say Manning and Luck have a good relationship with each other? I wonder how that came about or how/if that will change once Luck becomes Manning's backup/replacement.


Also im almost certain that ive heard before that Manning isnt really a guy that spends time teaching and coaching up his back ups, much like weve heard about Farve. Has anyone heard the same thing or know if thats true?

I would think the only way Indy pays him the 28 million in March is if Manning agrees to work with Luck and and has a transition plan. Either that or Indy is planning on taking Luck and auctioning him to the highest bidder. If Manning is really healthly or gets completely healthy he could be a QB for 4 more years.
#1 Question. Luck and Manning met and became friends at a Manning Qb School, I do not know if this was prior to college or during college and if it was more than once. Something that is slipping my mind is that I believe that Luck actually has come out to the camp o help out in coaching kids up recently. Could be wrong but that may be another connection in their relationship. Apprently they have a good relationship and talk to each other from time to time.

#2 Question. From what I have read and heard I think we can see some proof in the pudding in that Manning takes all of the practice snaps and does not allow others to get in work during practice. In this I would see where Manning would be a bad QB to learn under because he is more focused on his own preperation than others. This was talked about a long time ago in this thread.

Your last paragraph would be the whole crux of the situation IF Manning was able to come back healthy. From what we are hearing and reading now though this seems to be a long shot and may not ever come about.
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

No way does Indy keep both Manning and Luck next year. Whether Manning is healthy or not it sure looks like Indy's cleaning house and turning the page.
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

Well during John Clayton's interview I mentioned above he stated that the GM had looked at Coach Caldwell and felt good about keeping him. Just five short hours later he was fired. So maybe John was just giving his opinion, but it sure sounded like what he was talking about was a matter of fact not conjecture. So who knows once again.

It does sound like one thing is for sure though, PM is not healthy.

I tend to agree with you Skinsfan, why would the Colts keep an injured 36 yr that costs over 28mil this year, the bonus is just part of his 2012 salary, he will also make his regular game check come Sept.
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

Whatever the case, I think Manning is losing leverage the longer this drags out.
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

Most starting QBs take the majority (if not all) of the first team snaps
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

#1- Didn't coach Caldwell just get fireD?
#2- Manning might not like whoever is brought in.
#3- I've said it once I'll say it again. The Colts owner has stated "If Manning is healthy he will keep him and play him, if Manning can no longer play he will let him go, but he will not be trading Manning."

^ take it how you want but just last week I heard a rumor that Mannings doctor has advised Manning not to play ever again. Supposedly Manning does not want this out and it is believed that this advisement will probably find a way to get out.

My comment about Manning becoming an Asst. coach was based off the fact that he probably won't want to leave the game, probably after hearing he can no longer play want to be close to the game and start coaching, and has a formidable amount of knowledge he could pass on. I didn't say he should be made OC, or HC, or any sort of thing. All I said was Asst. coach which actually would probably be some sort of quality control guy. However I could see him being a QB coach because he could help whoever is at QB learn technique, learn how to read defenses, and help come up with all sorts of handy signs and signals to use during a game.
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

Now Chris Russell is reporting that Saturday is retiring further throwing a monkey wrench into a potential Skins deal.
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Now Chris Russell is reporting that Saturday is retiring further throwing a monkey wrench into a potential Skins deal.
Russell is saying he's definitely retiring? Or that he's considering it?
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@SS..considering.
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

So what is the deal with Manning's health? Is he even able to throw the ball with any type of zip? Seems to me that this thing is pretty serious since he wasn't even able to play one snap all year. He didn't even practice. Hopefully the Skins have learned their lesson with the whole McNabb mess and look the other way. I don't want a 36 year Manning with a bad neck.
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I don't Manning period. This team is not that close to winning a championship. If BAL or SF doesn't win the SB, those two teams should shoot for Manning. And let's not forget NYJ.
"IF" Manning was 100% healthy and was capable of taking a hit then I'd say ok lets try to get him as our QB next year. I think it's difficult to say lets pick him up if he's let go and hopefully by Sept. he will be cleared to play. I would not do it with that in mind.

What I would do however is bring him on with some type of contract agreement that "IF" he can't play then perhaps he would stay as a coach in some capacity. He proves his worth I could see him being a OC somewhere down the road and possibly a HC.
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Now Chris Russell is reporting that Saturday is retiring further throwing a monkey wrench into a potential Skins deal.
Two off beat topix....
1- everytime I hear the name Saturday I think of the old tv show with the detectives. But it was Joe Friday from Dragnet. lol.

2- everytime someone posts something in regards to Chris Russell I think of the guy who does the rap songs about the Skins.

I don't know why but it happens.
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