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Old 12-24-2011, 06:48 PM   #61
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That would be a very stupid move and consistent with what we've been doing for the last ten years. What many of these fans don't understand is if we fire Shanahan we will be starting all over again. It makes absolutely no sense to fire Shanahan. Us realistic fans realize that thing will take some time to turn around.
I don't think it's stupid and I'm a very realistic fan.Shanahans not turning anything around,hell he's worse than Zorn!
I couldnt watch game,but I read in the post that shanny challenged a call on a Peterson fumble that he was clearly down before ball came out plus we recovered it out of bounds,just another example of why I think shanny just isn't that good


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Old 12-24-2011, 07:02 PM   #62
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

It is concerning that he's struggled these past two weeks vs NFC East teams. But I don't hate the idea of Sanchez, depending on what we have to give up of course.

Anyhow, it's a long way to the offseason (unfortunately), just telling you guys what I know to this point.
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

I'm not really sure what is going on with Sanchez. I don't know the jets well enough to know if the past two years were just the whole team being good IN SPITE of Sanchez, or Sanchez being good enough to make them into a contender.
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

I do think this team is a solid QB away from being playoff bound. Our defense is solid, and we have 2 WR's that run amazing routes. If we could trade a 2nd for Sanchez, and bring in Blackmon that would be amazing.
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Oh please do not get Sanchez. He is not good, definitely no better than Rex Grossman. Especially if we have to give up picks for him. That would be unbelievably retarded and would lead to Shanahan getting fired and setting this team back another couple years.

If we could somehow get Manning I would love that. If he can make the shitty Colts a contender every year, he could at least do that for us. Right now we have a much better team.
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I don't think it's stupid and I'm a very realistic fan.Shanahans not turning anything around,hell he's worse than Zorn!
I couldnt watch game,but I read in the post that shanny challenged a call on a Peterson fumble that he was clearly down before ball came out plus we recovered it out of bounds,just another example of why I think shanny just isn't that good


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Let me attempt to break it down for you since it appears that you don't know as much about the game of football as you might think. Shanahan inherited a team that was old and not very talented with a lot of bad contracts. His first year he release a lot of veterans and dealt with their huge contracts. In his second year he replaced them with young and talent players that lack experience. He improved our defensive front seven that will be dominated in the coming years. All they need is some time to build chemistry. So far he has had two very good drafts. He's in his third year where he is most likely going to focus on improving our skilled positions. He's building our team to be playoff team for years to come. Not a artificial playoff team that might make it to the playoffs with aging veterans that has two or maybe three good years left. Realistic fans can see that our team was not a player or two away from being in playoff contention. We are a two or three good drafts from being in playoff contention. So far Shanahan has produced very good young players that will factors in turning this organization around. His offense system is a good one. His defensive system is a good one. There is no reason to change things around as long as we are moving in the right direction. If we fire him the only thing we will be doing is turning off any good assistant coach and well known head coach from coming here. Who would want to come here after we fire a legend like Shanahan? No up and coming or former head coach is going to risk ruining their career by coming here. Also we would have to start all over again like we have been doing for the last ten years. Get a brain and realize that sticking with Shanahan is the best course of action at this point.
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Oh please do not get Sanchez. He is not good, definitely no better than Rex Grossman. Especially if we have to give up picks for him. That would be unbelievably retarded and would lead to Shanahan getting fired and setting this team back another couple years.

If we could somehow get Manning I would love that. If he can make the shitty Colts a contender every year, he could at least do that for us. Right now we have a much better team.
Thank your steveo. Sanchez has sucked with much better talent that we have here. Some of our fellow Skins fans are stuck on stupid. This guy has been mediocre since he's been in the league. Why would we want him let alone trade first of second round picks for him?
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

Like we need a dirty Sanchez around here what the heck. Have yal watched him play, he is Rex Grossman in a jets uni.
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Let me attempt to break it down for you since it appears that you don't know as much about the game of football as you might think. Shanahan inherited a team that was old and not very talented with a lot of bad contracts. His first year he release a lot of veterans and dealt with their huge contracts. In his second year he replaced them with young and talent players that lack experience. He improved our defensive front seven that will be dominated in the coming years. All they need is some time to build chemistry. So far he has had two very good drafts. He's in his third year where he is most likely going to focus on improving our skilled positions. He's building our team to be playoff team for years to come. Not a artificial playoff team that might make it to the playoffs with aging veterans that has two or maybe three good years left. Realistic fans can see that our team was not a player or two away from being in playoff contention. We are a two or three good drafts from being in playoff contention. So far Shanahan has produced very good young players that will factors in turning this organization around. His offense system is a good one. His defensive system is a good one. There is no reason to change things around as long as we are moving in the right direction. If we fire him the only thing we will be doing is turning off any good assistant coach and well known head coach from coming here. Who would want to come here after we fire a legend like Shanahan? No up and coming or former head coach is going to risk ruining their career by coming here. Also we would have to start all over again like we have been doing for the last ten years. Get a brain and realize that sticking with Shanahan is the best course of action at this point.
you make some good points while leaving out all the mistakes he made and bad coaching descisions he continues to make.The 100 percent consensus around the NFL is good coach{which i have yet to see}terrible personel guy{which i have seen}
Im not saying fire him now if thats what your understanding,but if he produces another 5 or 6 win season next yr then thats a different story.
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

So I post this yesterday and today...which one if you is Mike Florio?

Jets have a decision to make on Sanchez | ProFootballTalk
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It's blasphemous I know. But I'd take Sanchez over RG3. Give me Bradford over both
Not blasphemy at all. Bradford is the best of those three choices.
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

Ok , lets say this happen, where does rex Ryan go ....becuase noway in helll can he and Peyton Manning co/exist
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

It is clear we are in desperate need of a QB. A franchsie Qb. But I am not in favor of giving up a ton of draft picks/our future to get a particular media darling (Luck/RGIII).
In the end it is still a crap shot as to which of the Qb's will star.
I am not in favor of firing Shanahan only because I do not want to start all over again. Allen and Shanahan have done some mostly good FO work by improving our offensive line and tearing apart our defense and rebuliing it. They have made mistakes, Josh Wilson for Carlos Rodger for example. But nobody is perfect and all team make some mistakes.
We need to stay the course, let Allen/Shanahan finish what they started. At least one more year.
I feel we are one great QB, two good CB's, one RB and one WR away from being a playoff team. Compared to when Zorn left, that is not htat much. The teams ahead of us in our division Giants and Dallas are not that much better than us.
No need to blow everything up.
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I dont get all the Bradford love.
He really hasnt done squat.
Not to mention he's semi damaged goods.
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Old 12-25-2011, 02:13 PM   #75
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Ok , lets say this happen, where does rex Ryan go ....becuase noway in helll can he and Peyton Manning co/exist
Well keep in mind who the Jets have added

Tom Moore to be at New York Jets' facility rest of season - ESPN New York
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