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Old 12-25-2011, 08:59 PM   #76
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

Indeed ^
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Old 12-26-2011, 01:27 AM   #77
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

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It's blasphemous I know. But I'd take Sanchez over RG3. Give me Bradford over both
Weird. Whatever happened to go big or go home?
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Old 12-26-2011, 03:36 AM   #78
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It is clear we are in desperate need of a QB. A franchsie Qb. But I am not in favor of giving up a ton of draft picks/our future to get a particular media darling (Luck/RGIII).
In the end it is still a crap shot as to which of the Qb's will star.
I am not in favor of firing Shanahan only because I do not want to start all over again. Allen and Shanahan have done some mostly good FO work by improving our offensive line and tearing apart our defense and rebuliing it. They have made mistakes, Josh Wilson for Carlos Rodger for example. But nobody is perfect and all team make some mistakes.
We need to stay the course, let Allen/Shanahan finish what they started. At least one more year.
I feel we are one great QB, two good CB's, one RB and one WR away from being a playoff team. Compared to when Zorn left, that is not htat much. The teams ahead of us in our division Giants and Dallas are not that much better than us.
No need to blow everything up.
We never would have gotten the Carlos Rogers in San Francisco even if we kept him. Why? Because he would have gotten a gigantic check and thus "confirm" that he had nothing significant to improve in his game.
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It's blasphemous I know. But I'd take Sanchez over RG3. Give me Bradford over both
Why would you rather have Sanchez over RG3. From what I have seen he has all the tools and seems to be a very smart guy.
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Instead of starting a new thread:

Jay Glazer said that reportedly the asking price for Andrew Luck is going to be 3 first round picks. Would you do that? (Now 3 first rounders could be your 1st in 2012, 2014, 2016; it doesn't mean 2012,2013,2014)
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

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Jay Glazer said that reportedly the asking price for Andrew Luck is going to be 3 first round picks. Would you do that? (Now 3 first rounders could be your 1st in 2012, 2014, 2016; it doesn't mean 2012,2013,2014)
You are switching 2012 1st round picks, so essentially 2 other 1st rounders.
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

Start a different thread on what is Andrew Luck worth
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

I'm really not a fan of Sanchez at all. But perhaps a change of scenery would do him good, and he's not as bad as some people make him out to be. But he's far from being an elite franchise QB too. I'd really have mixed feelings if we got him. I guess a lot would depend on what it would take to get him. Can we at least draft a guy to develop too??
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

And now the indications of Manning being interested in joining the Jets

New York Jets -- What does future hold for Mark Sanchez? - ESPN New York

Coming up soon, connecting Sanchez to the Redskins
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

Dont want Sanchez at all as the long term answer. If he were to replace Rex as the stop gap until our rookie is ready then fine but i don't believe think he is a franchise QB.

The only veteran QB that could possibly become available that I would accept as a long term answer is Bradford.
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

Sanchez and Bradford are within a year of each other in age, and if you throw Colt McCoy into that group, I think there's a pretty good chance that at least one of them becomes a solid starting quarterback (and I wouldn't be shocked if that guy is Sanchez).

I think it's very clear and obvious that McCoy is the best of the three, but you're still talking about three very limited pro quarterbacks. If you want a quarterback who might actually be able to lead us instead of leading him, I'd grab RG3 or Foles if possible. If not, I would try free agency. There's a pretty good class out there.

Mostly, this rumor seems well-intentioned, but more like the Redskins are just looking in the wrong place for a quarterback. I mean, we just tried the "buy low, unproven" route and got Grossman and Beck. I'd rather target someone with more upside than Sanchez/McCoy/Bradford.
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

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I've been saying that this is a possibility for quiet some time; on this board too I believe. It does just make too much sense. There are so many if's and factors to this that I don't feeling like typing them all, but bottom line:

I do NOT want Mark Sanchez. This is what he's doing with Good WR's and a Great OL. Imagine him on our team...NO Thanks! If that we're the case, then yeah I actually may want Tannehill...
Sanchez has a good running game and good wrs and still sucks. I don't want him no where near this team.
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

GTripp, who has more upside than Colt, Sanchez, Bradford - Luck or RG3? We ain't getting neither my friend.

I think Bradford is the best of the three.
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Re: The Big Rumor: If The Colts Take Luck, Then Manning Could Be...

Greg Cosell on Mark Sanchez:

Cosell Talks: You’re Seeing the Real Mark Sanchez : NFL Films Blog
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GTripp, who has more upside than Colt, Sanchez, Bradford - Luck or RG3? We ain't getting neither my friend.

I think Bradford is the best of the three.
I'd say Bradford is probably the worst of those three. My whole thing with Bradford is that he seems to be getting held to a different standard. "He was really awesome in college in 2008" wouldn't fly as a defense for any other quarterback, but it's really where all the belief in Bradford is coming from.

That doesn't mean I wouldn't toss a fifth round pick for a 25 year old QB and try to ressurect his career, but Sam Bradford isn't showing up anywhere in Week 1 next year as a premier player. He's a project. He's young enough, but must be torn down and rebuilt back into the player he was in college. It can be done, but not quickly enough here to save Mike Shanahan's job. Bradford will not be here because of that.

Mark Sanchez isn't that far away from being a mid-level quality starter, but you know, neither is Rex Grossman. Sanchez is much younger, but we've put two (or three with Kyle) years into Rex Grossman. I'm not sure you'd give that up for a much younger version of Rex Grossman.

I still like Colt McCoy's upside. He was really effective as a vertical passer in 2010. He hasn't been good at it this year. I think getting McCoy out of the west coast offense could actually save his career. So I like his upside best of the three. Again, if you're giving up more than a fifth round pick, you're doing it wrong.
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