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Old 12-30-2011, 09:12 AM   #166
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It's off of potential. I'll take flynn who showed he's been great in one start than Sanchez whose running game, OL, WR's, and Defense have taken him to all those wins in the playoffs. Sanchez has been in the league in 3 years, and hasn't showed me anything that makes me go, 'he's a great qb that i'd want on my team.' No no. And the Rookies are on upside/potential.
I think people are putting way too much into one good game Flynn has had. I hope he get significant playing time this weekend and let's see what he does.
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Old 12-30-2011, 09:14 AM   #167
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That's bad logic. You compare what you see Sanchez ceiling to be to the ceiling of the draftee. You just have a better idea of Sanchez because he has actually played in the nfl.

Sanchez would be an upgrade for us, but not much of one. He plays with two good wr (maybe the best 1 and 2 wr combo in the league) and still can't do much. What will he do with Moss and Gaffney?
The best 1 and 2 WR in the league? I don't know about that. Holmes is solid but he's constantly getting double teamed because Plax, who hadn't played football in over 2 years, has shown little to no ability to get any separation though he has improved. They miss Braylon, a healthy Braylon.
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Old 12-30-2011, 10:50 AM   #168
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2nd round pick Brian Brohm was expunged from the Packers instead of Flynn precisely because Flynn performed better than Brohm, draft pick status be damned.
All that tells me is that Brohm was a bust. Not sure being better then brohm makes him a franchise QB.
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Old 12-30-2011, 11:46 AM   #169
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That would be an understatement at this point. Freeman won't turn 24 for a month and he's already more accomplished than Sanchez as a pro passer.

Same thing with Eli Manning/Philip Rivers.
Yet people seem to be ready, no demanding that we trade (1st round draft picks) the most valueable resources on any team especially for a rebuilding team, for a pick that may or may not even prove to be the best QB in their draft class.
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Old 12-30-2011, 02:06 PM   #170
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Yet people seem to be ready, no demanding that we trade (1st round draft picks) the most valueable resources on any team especially for a rebuilding team, for a pick that may or may not even prove to be the best QB in their draft class.
I'll take my chances instead of continuing this legacy:

Heath Shuler
Gus Frerotte
Trent Green
Brad Johnson
Tony Banks
Shane Matthews
Patrick Ramsey
Mark Brunell
Jason Campbell
Donovan McNabb
Rex Grossman
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I'll take my chances instead of continuing this legacy:

Heath Shuler
Gus Frerotte
Trent Green
Brad Johnson
Tony Banks
Shane Matthews
Patrick Ramsey
Mark Brunell
Jason Campbell
Donovan McNabb
Rex Grossman
John Beck
Rex Grossman
How dare you leave out the Danny Wuerffel and Tim Hasselbeck eras!

Seriously though, this is a great list demonstrating that regardless of how we acquired them, we've settled for two decades at that position. We are still smarting from the Heath Shuler draft and have seemingly been gun shy to make a move again at an elite prospect. The time has come. Make the move for Luck or RGIII.
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Old 12-30-2011, 02:18 PM   #172
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How dare you leave out the Danny Wuerffel and Tim Hasselbeck eras!

Seriously though, this is a great list demonstrating that regardless of how we acquired them, we've settled for two decades at that position. We are still smarting from the Heath Shuler draft and have seemingly been gun shy to make a move again at an elite prospect. The time has come. Make the move for Luck or RGIII.
My apologies. I forgot about Hasselbeck and tried to for get about 'ol Whiffelball. Don't forget Bradford in that list to make a move for. I still contend he has the most upside for the least cost for us if St. Louis gets the #1 pick and is willing to deal.
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Old 12-30-2011, 02:25 PM   #173
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Old 12-30-2011, 03:03 PM   #175
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I would prefer Bradford, if all we had to do was give up our 2012 1st round pick.
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I would prefer Bradford, if all we had to do was give up our 2012 1st round pick.
It's going to be really interesting the direction the Rams go if they are in that position. It comes down to do you want to try to build the 90's Cowboys way with a bevy of picks and a slightly tarnished QB prospect or build from scratch with an elite QB prospect and a few additional picks to surround him with.

Dealing Bradford may be the best of both worlds. Getting Luck plus at least 3 top 90 picks over the next 2 drafts (a 1st and 3rd this year and a 2nd next year is the likely Bradford price).
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It's going to be really interesting the direction the Rams go if they are in that position. It comes down to do you want to try to build the 90's Cowboys way with a bevy of picks and a slightly tarnished QB prospect or build from scratch with an elite QB prospect and a few additional picks to surround him with.

Dealing Bradford may be the best of both worlds. Getting Luck plus at least 3 top 90 picks over the next 2 drafts (a 1st and 3rd this year and a 2nd next year is the likely Bradford price).

Yeah that probably would be the asking price, I would do it based on 2011 draft we would probably trade back and get those picks back.
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It's going to be really interesting the direction the Rams go if they are in that position. It comes down to do you want to try to build the 90's Cowboys way with a bevy of picks and a slightly tarnished QB prospect or build from scratch with an elite QB prospect and a few additional picks to surround him with.

Dealing Bradford may be the best of both worlds. Getting Luck plus at least 3 top 90 picks over the next 2 drafts (a 1st and 3rd this year and a 2nd next year is the likely Bradford price).
Where did you come up with that Bradford price? Personal speculation or did you read that somewhere? I love Bradford still but it seems a little steep to me after the year he had. His 1st 2 years are slightly disappointing yet they would be trading him for increased value. Doesn't add up to me.
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I'll take my chances instead of continuing this legacy:

Heath Shuler
Gus Frerotte
Trent Green
Brad Johnson
Tony Banks
Shane Matthews
Patrick Ramsey
Mark Brunell
Jason Campbell
Donovan McNabb
Rex Grossman
John Beck
Rex Grossman

What could have been if we kept Trent...
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Where did you come up with that Bradford price? Personal speculation or did you read that somewhere? I love Bradford still but it seems a little steep to me after the year he had. His 1st 2 years are slightly disappointing yet they would be trading him for increased value. Doesn't add up to me.
Personal speculation.. You have to think you're getting a QB less than 25 yrs old who had a strong rookie year, injury, new system and limited weapons impacted his effectiveness in 2011 but no major red flags about his ability arose. Two firsts is too steep but three top 90 picks is reasonable. Just my speculation though. Honestly, I doubt they move him but it all comes down to the new coach.
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