What is Andrew Luck Worth?

GTripp0012

We have no idea how many games the Colts would have won this year with Peyton Manning. If it was five or six, does that diminish his greatness any?

To me, it does not. It just makes the Colts a bad team.

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Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

SBXVII

I wouldn't say totally irrelevant but I like to think between being double teamed on rushing plays and held on others he has to be opening things up for Kerrigan. But as long as we were able to get a decent replacement then I could live with trading Orakpo.... I just get the feeling he would be a beast elsewhere and screw us but ..... thats par for the course.

Trent is a different story. He's been out and the team has not missed a beat. I'd even say they have played almost better. Almost. Trent is definitly expendable. It's just a shame he doesn't realize it and do whats right by his big contract. Instead he'd prefer to toke it up.

GTripp0012

You plan your moves a lot better than the Redskins do.

To make it a Redskins-approved move, we need a mediocre roster filler or journeyman veteran to be handed a starting job at a position of critical need, and then we must all be informed that if you don't understand why the team is doing what it's doing, then it reflects poorly on you as a fan. Because the football people did this. It's not wrong.

So then it's settled: Willie Smith and Erik Pears will share left tackle next year.

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Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

GTripp0012

Not that your fears are unfounded, but Helu has been much better in 2011 than Torain was in 2010. That and Helu was never a street free agent, unwanted by all teams. Those are significant differences.

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Shanahan: “The bad thing is he's [Sav Rocca] probably our best offensive weapon and that’s not good.”

SBXVII

1- I'd like to know what a "balls out effort" is?

2- Ramsey was, I thought at the time, the best QB and highest rated at the time.

3- Campbell. Only Cerrato would be scared that some other team might have made JC their 1st round pick. or 2nd for that matter which is why he made the leap. We all know Cerrato was an idiot.

CultBrennan59

watched inside the nfl tonight. Nothing really new/important, but Michael Lombardi said that the st. louis job is appealing to coaches and he heard that if st. louis got the number 1 pick, that they Will trade it to the highest bidder in a hershel walker type of deal, which could be--as this board has mentioned--3 first rounders. I don't remember if he mentioned washington or not, but we need--if we want Luck--to have the jags lose to Indy-as we've mentioned before.

The point of this post is that what we keep hearing and hearing is starting to become more of a definite reality, should St. Louis get the pick.

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irish

So is 20/20 hindsight.

Paintrain

1-Meeting the reasonable asking price to be in position to get an elite prospect. Does anyone think the Giants regret giving up two firsts, two thirds and a fifth (I believe) for Eli Manning? Heck no, they have a ring as a result. Sometimes a brave bold move has to be made to achieve greatness.

2-Ramsey was the last pick of the first round, hardly an elite prospect and was a project coming out in probably the worst QB class in NFL history (David Carr, Joey Harrington & Ramsey were first round picks). The most "accomplished" QBs from that draft were David Garrard and Josh McCown. Of course hindsight is 20/20 on how they turned out but this is exactly what we've done, settle.

3-Even the Campbell pick was reaching/settling for a project. Of course the easy argument is that Rodgers went one pick before him. True, but Rodgers was considered a borderline elite prospect that slipped because of questions on how long it would take to break him from Tedford's QB mechanics. But the point was, again, even if we got Campbell in the 2nd where he was projected, it is still settling for a second tier prospect.

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celts32

That's exactly right...the Rams would never give us their pick without getting our pick in return. And TW value is as low as it could be after his suspension. Either way i would give them #7 also and keep TW.

It's so obvious looking at this league that the teams that win consistently are the ones with franchise QB's. And as I have said over and over on here there is pretty much no price I wouldn't pay to get one. A few 1st round picks are not that significant when compared to 15 years of a franchise QB...

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skinsfaninok

Bottom line is Andrew luck is considered as a can't miss qb even more than Sam was so I wouldnt be shocked to see stl take him and trade Bradford

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celts32

Fine...I will take him to. On April 26th i want to have one of Luck, RG3 or Bradford on the roster. Not sure I will be happy with anything else...

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SmootSmack

Luck and Bradford I'd love to have. Still have some doubts about RG3 though. I think Blackmon and Tannehill can be as effective as just RG3

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redsk1

I don't know alot about Tannehill besides some scouting reports, but I think I could live w/ those two drafted in 2012.