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Old 01-20-2012, 11:08 PM   #451
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Went to a couple of Fins games this year.....empty..
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:32 PM   #452
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One of the Miami columnists - - probably either Dan LeBatard or Greg Cote - - said that Jeff Fisher chose the Rams over the Dolphins because Ross would not agree to give Fisher primacy in personnel decisions over Jeff Ireland. That colunmist said Ross chose the "wrong Jeff"...

Interesting perspective.

Ireland was a "Parcells guy" but seems to have transcended that regime with regard to the Dolphins.
What I heard was Fisher wanted Ross to be the tie-breaker and Ross said no, if Fisher and Ireland disagreed they'd go with what Ireland chose. That Roas did not want to be involved
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:43 PM   #453
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What I heard was Fisher wanted Ross to be the tie-breaker and Ross said no, if Fisher and Ireland disagreed they'd go with what Ireland chose. That Roas did not want to be involved
Why would you want a owner that had no background in coaching/player evaluation making the tie breaker? He would be better off flipping a coin. At least Ross was smart enough to stay out of it...lol
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Old 01-21-2012, 03:17 AM   #454
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Why would you want a owner that had no background in coaching/player evaluation making the tie breaker? He would be better off flipping a coin. At least Ross was smart enough to stay out of it...lol
Or Fisher is old school (in the good way), which he is, and believed Ross would respond favorably to his maturity, methodology, and "magic" over Ireland's pedigree.

Ultimately Ross' decision to go "advantage Ireland" is probably the make or break decision of his first decade of ownership. Was Fisher's "underachievement" basically a result of facing the two greatest QBs in pro football history in every post-season for the past decade? Has Ireland learned enough from Parcells to achieve Parcells-like results? Or, if both Fisher and Ireland are future SB winning coaches/GMs...who wins first, who wins more?

IMO Ross failed. GTripp underestimates the importance of the decision. Ross may indeed be worse than Snyder at understanding the personality of a great pro football coach, which is not to be found in the typicall corporate executive both men came to know so well in their impressive careers.

IMO he's failed by 80/20 odds, but as the Zen master says...we'll see.

But it'd be nary a blip on the timeline graph of "Snyder's really bad decisions." Snyder can make bad decisions within bad decisions, he's gone all Leonardo Dicaprio/Inception up in this b!tch and we all need an epic "kick" to wake up from this ongoing nightmare!!!
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Old 01-21-2012, 07:49 AM   #455
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Dolphins hire Joe Philbin from Green Bay as their head coach.. Have to think they are the favorites for Matt Flynn as well now.
Hope we make a bid on Flynn just to drive the $$$ up.
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Old 01-21-2012, 08:41 AM   #456
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Dolphins hire Joe Philbin from Green Bay as their head coach.. Have to think they are the favorites for Matt Flynn as well now.
This was my first thought as well. Which still could be to our favor if Matt Moore doesnt return. If we have to take someone like a Tannehill, Foles, Cousins, etc in the second round who may not be ready, Moore would be someone ideal to bring in and start.
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Old 01-21-2012, 09:58 AM   #457
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Spags replaces G. Williams in New Orleans.

Saints hire Steve Spagnuolo as defensive coordinator - NFL - SI.com

I think this is a really good pick up for NO. Spags is a really solid D Coor. Mostly, I am really glad he didn't go to Philly where some of the rumours had him going.

What's the over/under on how long J. Castillo survives as DC in Philly?
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Old 01-21-2012, 11:02 AM   #458
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Why would you want a owner that had no background in coaching/player evaluation making the tie breaker? He would be better off flipping a coin. At least Ross was smart enough to stay out of it...lol
Ego/Power? If Ross is the tie-breaker they are closer to equals.
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Why would you want a owner that had no background in coaching/player evaluation making the tie breaker? He would be better off flipping a coin. At least Ross was smart enough to stay out of it...lol
It's what Jack Kent Cooke used to do
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Old 01-21-2012, 12:57 PM   #460
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I guess it's happening after all, good luck to Bradford.

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Old 01-21-2012, 01:15 PM   #461
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One of the Miami columnists - - probably either Dan LeBatard or Greg Cote - - said that Jeff Fisher chose the Rams over the Dolphins because Ross would not agree to give Fisher primacy in personnel decisions over Jeff Ireland. That colunmist said Ross chose the "wrong Jeff"...

Interesting perspective.

Ireland was a "Parcells guy" but seems to have transcended that regime with regard to the Dolphins.
And what's wrong with this type of set up? Seems to work well in Pittsburgh. IMO no coach should ever have total control over personnel. Coaching a team is hard enough. Ireland hasn't done a poor job. They have some good pieces to build with there.
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:19 PM   #462
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And what's wrong with this type of set up? Seems to work well in Pittsburgh. IMO no coach should ever have total control over personnel. Coaching a team is hard enough. Ireland hasn't done a poor job. They have some good pieces to build with there.
Just reporting what a Miami columnist - - it was indeed Greg Cote in the Miami Herald - - said about the situation there.

Obviously, he thinks less highly of Jeff Ireland and more highly of Jeff Fisher than you do. Time will tell how successful either will be in their current positions...
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:20 PM   #463
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I guess it's happening after all, good luck to Bradford.

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Unfortunately this screams volumes to me. I doubt Marty Schottenheimer is going to coach for Tampa cause I'd have to imagine he'd want his son as OC. Unless father and son don't like each other.
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I guess it's happening after all, good luck to Bradford.

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Telling u man it was all Sanchez, Sam will play well under brian
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Old 01-21-2012, 01:42 PM   #465
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SB will improve when they get some weapons around him too, and some protection.

Fisher is going to want to pound the rock, he's not going to expose SB the way McDaniels did.
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