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Old 01-03-2012, 05:24 PM   #166
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Reposted from the other thread because it fits better here:

I'll probably say this a lot between now and mid-March, but Chad Henne is younger, more proven and has better tools than Matt Flynn. See for yourself:

Chad Henne NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

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I'm not even sure I understand the argument for Flynn over Henne. We don't know how good Flynn is? The Packers are better at developing QBs than the Dolphins? A mixture of weak reasoning?

Henne should get at least one and a half times what Flynn gets in guaranteed money.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:38 PM   #167
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it would be interesting to see how many people around here even knew who the hell Flynn was before the packs last game? i say no way. lets put our eggs in one basket and draft RG3
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:38 PM   #168
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My concern with Matt Flynn is that he's played himself into beach front property value, while there's a lot of "under construction" and "foreclosures" on the market. Moreover, the market will irresponsibly set his current value based on one internet photo without performing proper inspections and/or due diligence. It's absurd. Doesn't make common sense and it doesn't football sense.

For that simple reason, I say pass on this dude. Too much risk incurred overnight, too many unknowns.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:40 PM   #169
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Reposted from the other thread because it fits better here:

I'll probably say this a lot between now and mid-March, but Chad Henne is younger, more proven and has better tools than Matt Flynn. See for yourself:

Chad Henne NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Matt Flynn NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

I'm not even sure I understand the argument for Flynn over Henne. We don't know how good Flynn is? The Packers are better at developing QBs than the Dolphins? A mixture of weak reasoning?

Henne should get at least one and a half times what Flynn gets in guaranteed money.
I'd be in favor of bringing in Henne to compete for a backup job and/or as a bridge starter. He hasn't been all that bad in Miami, just hasn't really developed into a frontline starter.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:47 PM   #170
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I'd be in favor of bringing in Henne to compete for a backup job and/or as a bridge starter. He hasn't been all that bad in Miami, just hasn't really developed into a frontline starter.
Right.

I wouldn't go out and put all my eggs in the Henne basket, but the Chargers didn't exactly put all their eggs in Brees' basket when they drafted Rivers high in the draft in 2004.

Chad Henne is not the best quarterback in free agency, but he's better than Flynn and he's the best "rest of career" bet in free agency. If you're going to give a deal longer than three years to any QB in this free agent class, he's the one you should give it to.

He's also a really good fit for our offense, but that doesn't even seem to matter to people anymore.
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I wouldn't be against looking at Henne. He could benefit from a change of scenery.
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Right.

I wouldn't go out and put all my eggs in the Henne basket, but the Chargers didn't exactly put all their eggs in Brees' basket when they drafted Rivers high in the draft in 2004.

Chad Henne is not the best quarterback in free agency, but he's better than Flynn and he's the best "rest of career" bet in free agency. If you're going to give a deal longer than three years to any QB in this free agent class, he's the one you should give it to.

He's also a really good fit for our offense, but that doesn't even seem to matter to people anymore.
I thought Henne was really turning a corner this year before he getting injured. For all the reasons you cite, I would take him in a heartbeat over Sexy Rexy as a stop-gap starter, long-term back up.
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Old 01-03-2012, 10:48 PM   #173
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I'd try henne as a backup, but he looks like a whole lot of average to me.
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Well, this is a Matt Flynn thread. Perspective, people.
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Well, this is a Matt Flynn thread. Perspective, people.
The perspective is that Flynn had one great game so he is the savior.
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Old 01-04-2012, 12:46 AM   #176
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Reposted from the other thread because it fits better here:

I'll probably say this a lot between now and mid-March, but Chad Henne is younger, more proven and has better tools than Matt Flynn. See for yourself:

Chad Henne NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

Matt Flynn NFL Football Statistics - Pro-Football-Reference.com

I'm not even sure I understand the argument for Flynn over Henne. We don't know how good Flynn is? The Packers are better at developing QBs than the Dolphins? A mixture of weak reasoning?

Henne should get at least one and a half times what Flynn gets in guaranteed money.
I'd be on Henne's jock too if he had a 6TD game under his belt. Just don't think anyone can luck there way through a game like that. I don't care what the system is or what talent they have around them. Davis would be every bit as good as Finley on that team and we should be able to get a true #1 WR in the offseason. Our RBs are just as good or better and Kyle's system is very similar to Green Bays.
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I'd be on Henne's jock too if he had a 6TD game under his belt. Just don't think anyone can luck there way through a game like that. I don't care what the system is or what talent they have around them. Davis would be every bit as good as Finley on that team and we should be able to get a true #1 WR in the offseason. Our RBs are just as good or better and Kyle's system is very similar to Green Bays.
Really? Do you also believe there are no one game wonders in the NFL either? I think anyone could have a game like that. Surrounded by a lot of talent at almost every position, game becomes a shootout, you know the offense from being there multiple years.

I don't want Flynn, for multiple reasons. He's played 2 career games in the NFL. Teams have no film on him, they don't have a read on his tendencies. Both of his games came against average to bad defenses. He's had multiple years to learn the offense. The talent level with the Packers is leaps and bounds better than the talent level on the Redskins. And most of all he's not gonna have that comfort zone with whatever team he signs with that he has with the Packers.
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Really? Do you also believe there are no one game wonders in the NFL either? I think anyone could have a game like that. Surrounded by a lot of talent at almost every position, game becomes a shootout, you know the offense from being there multiple years.

I don't want Flynn, for multiple reasons. He's played 2 career games in the NFL. Teams have no film on him, they don't have a read on his tendencies. Both of his games came against average to bad defenses. He's had multiple years to learn the offense. The talent level with the Packers is leaps and bounds better than the talent level on the Redskins. And most of all he's not gonna have that comfort zone with whatever team he signs with that he has with the Packers.
Sure I do, but that wasn't just a good game. That was off the charts record breaking good and I don't think just anyone can have a game like that. Our guys struggle to throw 1Td against the worst defenses in the league. Plus he had a great game last year, impressed the Green Bay coaches enough to earn the back up role after being drafted in the 7th round and word is Aaron Rodgers trusts him explicitly. They also run a system similar to Kyle's.

If you think he can only play at that level if he's surrounded by talent, then all we need to do is surround him with talent. I don't advocate getting him if Green Bay franchises him, but assuming it only costs money I think we should nab him. We don't have any Portis or Haynesworth-like salaries weighing us down.

So you want talent? How about Bowe in free agency and Blackmon with the 6th pick.

Bowe, Blackmon, Hankerson, Moss
Cooley, Davis
Hightower, Helu, Royster

At least 8 more draft picks for O-line and Defense, plus more free agents. If Cleveland gets Flynn then we should have a good shot at RGIII.
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Sure I do, but that wasn't just a good game. That was off the charts record breaking good and I don't think just anyone can have a game like that. Our guys struggle to throw 1Td against the worst defenses in the league. Plus he had a great game last year, impressed the Green Bay coaches enough to earn the back up role after being drafted in the 7th round and word is Aaron Rodgers trusts him explicitly. They also run a system similar to Kyle's.

If you think he can only play at that level if he's surrounded by talent, then all we need to do is surround him with talent. I don't advocate getting him if Green Bay franchises him, but assuming it only costs money I think we should nab him. We don't have any Portis or Haynesworth-like salaries weighing us down.

So you want talent? How about Bowe in free agency and Blackmon with the 6th pick.

Bowe, Blackmon, Hankerson, Moss
Cooley, Davis
Hightower, Helu, Royster

At least 8 more draft picks for O-line and Defense, plus more free agents. If Cleveland gets Flynn then we should have a good shot at RGIII.
Exactly the way i feel! Whats the other option, drafting an unproven QB and sticking him in with no talent around him? Flynn gives us the ability to add multiple young players and quality depth at other much needed positions, not just one QB that, from recent history, could be very hit or miss. (Ten Years of First Round QB's)
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Exactly the way i feel! Whats the other option, drafting an unproven QB and sticking him in with no talent around him? Flynn gives us the ability to add multiple young players and quality depth at other much needed positions, not just one QB that, from recent history, could be very hit or miss. (Ten Years of First Round QB's)
The interesting thing about that link is that in the past 10 years, despite multiple drafts (7) with more than one top 10 QB being drafted, there was not a draft when QB went 1-2. The notion that the Rams are the only option to trade for RGIII is flawed, especially in the scenario I posed in another thread of the Browns going big on Flynn based on the Holmgren past with GB backups.
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