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Old 01-17-2012, 10:17 PM   #301
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At this point, after the lackluster QB play weve had the last 10-15 years, can we afford to be content with a "viable starter"? With flynn, there is less risk of bust than say RGIII, but there is little promise of him entering elite status. I want a top 5-10 Quarterback, and will do what is needed to get that.
Yeah, look at what being content with a viable starter has gotten the Ravens, 49ers, and even the Giants to a degree (Eli is so mediocre people around here actually made serious arguments that he wasn't as good as Jason Campbell).

We really need the future Aaron Rogers or Drew Brees. Can't win any more with a team that plays solid Defense, runs the ball well and passes pretty good, but maybe not great. It's all about throwing it 60 times a game.

Even if Rex threw for modest numbers like 22TDs and only 10INTs, we would have only won maybe 1 or 2 more games. We really need a 30 plus TD guy, and of course RGIII is going to step right in and do that in year 1. Because it happens all the time.
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Old 01-17-2012, 11:45 PM   #302
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My perfect world:

The Pack won't be tagging Flynn. The Skins offer whatever it takes to get him. No draft picks I'm talking money amount. Then we pick up RG3 in the draft. We grab some WR weapons in the FA bidding war and the Skins finally get an "A+" for their offseason moves and draft. Let the QBs battle it out for the starting spot. Maybe start Flynn and work RG3 in on some spread package that's added. If RG3 is the man lets work him into more playing time and we could trade Flynn next year or keep both.
Sorry but this makes zero sense. Getting the (allegedly) most coveted player at the position in free agency AND trading up to get RGIII???

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Old 01-18-2012, 01:18 AM   #303
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Sorry but this makes zero sense. Getting the (allegedly) most coveted player at the position in free agency AND trading up to get RGIII???

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I think not. We'd get a decent QB to take over the reigns at 26 y/o who learned as an understudy to an awsome QB. Mean while RGIII doesn't have to thrown into the fire right away. He can sit back and learn from Flynn until he gets up to spead of the NFL, learns the system, and is ready to play. It's called developement. But if it upsets you to develope a raw talent then we can always pick a late 1st rounder or 2nd rounder like Tannehill, Weeden, or whoever to develope.
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Old 01-18-2012, 01:23 AM   #304
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Sorry but this makes zero sense. Getting the (allegedly) most coveted player at the position in free agency AND trading up to get RGIII???

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Old 01-18-2012, 07:58 AM   #305
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Sorry but this makes zero sense. Getting the (allegedly) most coveted player at the position in free agency AND trading up to get RGIII???

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Yeah it's one or the other. RG3 and a veteran QB to back him up, or Flynn and a mid to late round QB to develop makes more sense.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:13 AM   #306
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I think not. We'd get a decent QB to take over the reigns at 26 y/o who learned as an understudy to an awsome QB. Mean while RGIII doesn't have to thrown into the fire right away. He can sit back and learn from Flynn until he gets up to spead of the NFL, learns the system, and is ready to play. It's called developement. But if it upsets you to develope a raw talent then we can always pick a late 1st rounder or 2nd rounder like Tannehill, Weeden, or whoever to develope.
Just not realistic scenario, but you did say in a perfect world. Way too many QB hungry teams around to think the Redskins could gobble up what is supposedly the best free agent QB and the third best QB in the draft. What makes it more unrealistic is to assume the Redskins would have the cap space available to sign the top receivers in free agency as well. Even with the rookie salary cap, your franchise can't put itself in cap hell, and I'm afraid that's exactly what would happen.

I think the best case scenario is that the Redskins go out and pick up a decent, young free agent who could manage a better season than Rex Grossman, and draft Tannehill or Foles (even though I just have doubts about Foles.) I would LOVE to have Andrew Luck or RG III, and I DO think it's very possible for the Redskins to land one of those two guys, but the more I think about it, the more I'm not so sure the Redskins would move up to draft one of those guys.
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Old 01-18-2012, 09:53 AM   #307
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My perfect world:

The Pack won't be tagging Flynn. The Skins offer whatever it takes to get him. No draft picks I'm talking money amount. Then we pick up RG3 in the draft. We grab some WR weapons in the FA bidding war and the Skins finally get an "A+" for their offseason moves and draft. Let the QBs battle it out for the starting spot. Maybe start Flynn and work RG3 in on some spread package that's added. If RG3 is the man lets work him into more playing time and we could trade Flynn next year or keep both.
It's not so far fetched to think we could sign Flynn at a fairly reasonable cost. Even though he'll get more than he probably has earned. There are only a handful of teams that need a starting QB. Big assumption here though.

It's not far fetched to think we could then add a QB in the draft a sit him a year if it's RGIII, Foles, or Tannehill, etc.

Not saying we'll go out and pay big money for a FA WR, but I like the scenario. Look Flynn has been a backup and I'm sure he wants to start somewhere. He'll get every opportunity to start here.

I've mentioned this before, but we could then have essentially two good QB pieces or if one doesn't pan out, we'll have a backup.
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:08 AM   #308
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btw if you all compare schaub when he was a backup to vick for the falcons, and Flynn backing up rodgers, Flynn has much better numbers than schaub. Just saying.
That's a weak comparison. The numbers are misleading in this case. Schaub was a potential starter when he came out of UVA drafted in the 3rd round by Atlanta. They picked him because Vick couldn't stay healthy and they needed someone to come in and play at a decent level. Flynn was drafted in the 7th round to be nothing more than a backup. He's developed to the point now where he is regarded as a potential starter based on a very small sample. Last year do we remember who was all the buzz as a late round pick who played relatively well in a small sample in a high pressure situation? Caleb Haine. How did that turn out?
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Old 01-18-2012, 10:54 AM   #309
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Caleb Haine and Matt Flynn is a hard comparison to make there bud.

Haine has looked pretty bad in his games under center, where as Flynn has played good to great in his starts.
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Think he was talking about how Hanie looked good last year in the playoffs.
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Old 01-18-2012, 11:23 AM   #311
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I was also using the playoffs last year as a measure of evalutation, from what my memory serves me (which is a bad thing to rely on) I don't remember Haine playing that well even in the playoffs. I believe he won a game, but tell me if I am wrong but he wasn't exaclty a world beater in that game.
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Probably not a great direct comparison to Flynn's situation, but I think his point was after that game Hanie was looked at as being a QB on the rise.
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Probably not a great direct comparison to Flynn's situation, but I think his point was after that game Hanie was looked at as being a QB on the rise.
Yeah, exactly. Bears fans were all excited because they had 2 "good young QB" and especially the way Cutler exited the NFC Championship game under questionable circumstances some extremes called for an open competition or even for Haine to be the starter. Some thought he was the real deal after one impressive performance but turned out to be a fluke when pressed into consistent action.
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Here is a nice write up.

2012 NFL Free Agent Profile: Matt Flynn - Hogs Haven
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Old 01-18-2012, 04:59 PM   #315
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I agree. Sign him and draft at least one qb. We need competition at the position.
That is exactly right; Redskins need a starter and a backup! To me that means a FA acquisition and a draft pick to fill the void. FA could be Rex, but I rather doubt that happens. To me, the two most likey FA QB's are Flynn and Hoyer in New England. Hoyer is restricted FA.
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