What is Matt Flynn Worth to the Redskins

SkinzWin

If it is true that the Packers wanted a 1st and 3rd for Flynn I would be hesitant to pull the trigger. Think about what Arizona gave up for a mostly unproven, yet somehow highly touted, back-up QB in Kolb. And look how he's working out for them, not the greatest....

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NC_Skins

Not sure you can pay a guy that type of money and not even know he can be the starter on your squad. Hell, he may not even beat out current QBs on the teams looking at him.

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redsk1

Flynn's a unrestricted FA right?

I'm not convinced about RGIII either. It's too tough to figure out if he can make the transition to a NFL style offense.

MS does his homework. I'm sure they've studied Matt Flynn well before today.

I'm not against this route, assuming our FO thinks highly enough of him.

Lotus

If that is true, then Flynn and trying to go with a big-time rookie is an either/or. You don't pay Flynn $10 mil. to back up your developing phenom.

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tc2deuce

If we have a chance for RGIII we better take him or we will regret it.

GTripp0012

I think a clear plan of any sort always beats just winging it out there on draft day, but I wouldn't write off RG3, Bradford, and Sanchez as being basically the same thing as Flynn. Flynn played one year in college plus two games in the pros. And his college numbers at LSU don't support the illusion that are his pro stats in those two starts. Schaub's did, and that's the big difference between him. Having the college career to support the limited sample size in the pros is really important.

I really like RG3, and don't really think Bradford and Sanchez profile as no. 1 QBs at this stage of their careers, but that's different than Flynn who has been and actually still is a no. 2 guy, and is the oldest option of the bunch. If Flynn actually profiled as a number one, you'd see the Packers franchise him and then try to trade him. And that would make him by far the least appealing option of the four.

I think Griffin profiles as a no. 1 QB in the NFL as a rookie. Would you be playing a rookie? Sure. But that seems like a lot better of an option than selling the farm for Flynn just because the QB position is a weakness.

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30gut

I think that asking price was a spitball guesstimate just like I think a minimum of 3 1sts for Luck.
The trades/draft still operates on a barter/haggle system and everyone knows rule #1 of the bargain is...

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NC_Skins

Why are people so hyped up about Matt Flynn? Sure he had a hell of a game today, but what makes you think he can remotely duplicate that type of success anywhere else? He going to be our version of clipboard Jesus?


Shanny knows what the hell he's doing. I'm quite positive if he thinks Flynn is the type of talent he wants as his QB, he'll bring him in. From what I've gathered from a few insiders, they aren't interested in him so don't get your hopes up.


I still don't get why fans are still ripping Mike over the QB position with him having really 0 options elsewhere.

Draft? Locker got drafted before us.
FA? Vince Young is really tearing it up in Philly.
FA? Matt Hasselbeck? You want to pay a 36 year old 21 million to throw 6 fewer INTs?

Grossman: 16 TDs, 20 INTs, 3,151 yards, 72.4 QB rating (13 games)
Hasselbeck 18 TDs, 14 INTs, 3,571 yards, 82.4 QB rating (16 games)

Mind you, that's with Hasselbeck having Chris Johnson in the back field. The numbers aren't really that much different other than the INTs. Also, Rex has played 3 fewer games.

So where was this "magical fix" at the QB position you guys keep chirping about?

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GTripp0012

I agree that Flynn would have been a legit option at this time last year. If you could get him, it would have made sense with the makeup of our roster. The burden of responsibility would have been relatively low, and the possibility of success pretty high. Even if the player wasn't a particularly good one. Flynn could have failed as badly as McNabb did, and all it would have done was reflected poorly on Shanahan, which is essentially what happened anyway with Grossman/Beck.

If he hits free agency, paying starter money for him would be a dumb mistake.

The difference of course is the difference between trading for someone elses no. 2 guy (no different than acquiring Chase Daniel or Brian Hoyer next year) and having him compete for your no. 1 job because you have a weakness, and essentially handing the starting job to an unproven player. You don't want to pay lots of money for the right to hand jobs to unproven guys, but you do want to acquire low-cost players with upside. There is a big difference.

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2BIG2BSKINNY

After reading a while and trying to get what the Skins will do...I think people liked what went on last year with draft picks and the possibility of several good players. And Spending money on Flynn or a FA still leaves us the option of our draft picks to continue the competition to make the roster better.

I agree with you that there were not a lot of options last year... so Grossman was the result!

I think since in the past money was never a barrier to sign players we are so use to overlook the ramifications of the highest bidder mentality and what it does to a roster of blue collar players.

I am currently giddy that there are options to cure what ails the Skins!!!

GMScud

Well, Shanahan also didn't have to "stake his reputation" on these two bums either. There was a certain arrogance with which he stuck with Rex and Beck that was pretty annoying.

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30gut

I still don't get why some people are willing to rationalize every decision Mike Shanahan makes?

Grossman finished the season 28th by QB rating.

I don't think it asking too much that our QB situation not get worse each year.(Campbell to McNabb to Rex/BEck)

I don't think its too much to ask to have our QB finish better then 28th?

So unless 28th is okay with you there were better options.

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T.O.Killa

Green Bay does the same things on offense we do. They run the bootleg, they are west coast what is the huge difference. Flynn is a very athletic QB. He ran a 4.70 40ytd, thats faster than most. Not sure what the huge differences are.