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Old 01-02-2012, 01:03 PM   #121
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I hope and think the Skins stay away from Flynn. I could see him playing for the Jets though and maybe Sanchez is reunited with Pete Carol in a three way deal.
So Jets would get Flynn, Sanchez would go to Seahawks, what would the third team be? And by the way, Flynn is an unrestricted free agent so there would be no trade...
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Old 01-02-2012, 01:28 PM   #122
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...but seriously. This team has arrived at the point where we need to fix te QB position. Period. I'd personally go after someone young w potential via trade or FA ala Flynn, AND trade up to secure RG3. A Flynn type move gives us some leverage so we don't get totally bent over in a draft trade. And also gives us the ability to groom our pick and play them when it makes most sense. Plus it doubles our chances of finding a good one. Which is the most important factor. Bottom line is this team can't move forward until we solve our decades long quarterback woes. It's time. Anyone thinking we can stand pat or do something small or temporary has not been paying attention.
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Old 01-02-2012, 01:48 PM   #123
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Living in New Orleans, I've watched Flynn ever since he took over the reins at LSU from Jamarcus Russell. I have always thought he was underwhelming, not bad, just not impressive. I did watch the Green Bay game yesterday and was very impressed with his play. He played a great game and MADE plays, not just managed the game. I have to say, that I would view Flynn as an upgrade over Rex, but with so small a sample of his body of work in the pros, I fear that most Skins fans will be in for a rude awakening if/when he would become our QB. I believe that in Flynn we would be getting a 'game manager' in the mold of a Brad Johnson. Above average as far as game managers go, but no really outstanding skills or playmaking that bump him into the elite category. I have no problem with bringing him in, I just would hate to see the fans get all worked up, (like with McNugget), only to be let down when reality comes crashing down once again.

I agree. He didn't really impress me when he was at LSU. Good college player but nothing more. Besides, if you put Flynn behind center here, does he have the ability to make the players around him better? No. We need a potential superstar. Not a potential game manager, or a slight upgrade over Grossman. I say we pass and draft our own guy.
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Old 01-02-2012, 01:49 PM   #124
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:00 PM   #125
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I'm hoping (but deep down I know they won't do it) that the browns sign Matt Flynn, and we can get RG3.

The crowd of analysts/critics/draft-evaluators had it as 100% Luck-supporters. Then RG3 one the Heisman and got more attention and then just had a great bowl game show his quickness + Cam Newton helped him out by showing that athletes from the spread are legit.
Now that crowd is 55% Luck-45% Griffin.
This is an interesting point. Holmgren seems to prefer seasoned qbs and signing Flynn would be a similar move to when he traded for Hasselbeck from GB to Sea.
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:26 PM   #126
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Getting Matt Flynn would be what the old Redskins would do. We're drafting a quarterback, and if he sucks then we'll suck, but we've gotta do it the right way.
yes lets draft someone and fill the other holes with free agents
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I'd look at Flynn, but I'd rather draft our guy
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:34 PM   #128
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The Redskins could still pick up Matt Flynn and draft a QB. The only question would be, having Flynn on board means moving up to draft someone like RG III or moving down to get someone like Jones or Tannehill? I think it would be the latter.
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Old 01-02-2012, 02:40 PM   #129
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The Redskins could still pick up Matt Flynn and draft a QB. The only question would be, having Flynn on board means moving up to draft someone like RG III or moving down to get someone like Jones or Tannehill? I think it would be the latter.
I think that situation would have to be the latter as well...
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Id rather have Errol Flynn.
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:07 PM   #131
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I didn't see him play, but I'd prefer to trade for flynn (if he is good) over reaching for a qb (if we don't believe in someone). Trust our scouting. Whoever we think is best we give the first round pick up for. I'd guess it would be flynn. Word in the preseason this year was flynn was playing even better than rodgers.
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I hope and think the Skins stay away from Flynn. I could see him playing for the Jets though and maybe Sanchez is reunited with Pete Carol in a three way deal.
These are the types of things that drive me crazy. Flynn is a FA. No one has to trade for him.

And in my opinion thats what makes Flynn so valuable; not only could he be a good qb, but the opportunity cost to get him is existentially zero. With Luck and RGIII it will cost us at a bare minimum 1 draft pick but in reality multiple draft picks and/or trading players like Orapko/T. Williams/Davis. If we sign Matt Flynn all it will cost us is Danny's money (inconsequential to me) and cap space which depending on the deal could also be relatively inconsequential.

My thoughts are RGIII or Luck may be much better qb prospects then Flynn, however, do you believe that the cost in the loss of 6th overall pick plus trading additional picks and/or players to get either of them will be more beneficial to the team then not having to trade anything and simply adding Flynn? Trading for a player is entirely different and more costly then signing a player through FA. In fact trading picks and/or players to move up in the draft is nearly identical as trading for a player on another team.
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Old 01-02-2012, 03:30 PM   #132
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If you guys read my post, I never said Flynn would be traded. I said I could see him playing for the Jets and Seattle would acquire Sanchez via trade.

The third team, which I did misstate, was that I'm hoping the Redskins stay away from Flynn altogether.
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These are the types of things that drive me crazy. Flynn is a FA. No one has to trade for him.

And in my opinion thats what makes Flynn so valuable; not only could he be a good qb, but the opportunity cost to get him is existentially zero. With Luck and RGIII it will cost us at a bare minimum 1 draft pick but in reality multiple draft picks and/or trading players like Orapko/T. Williams/Davis. If we sign Matt Flynn all it will cost us is Danny's money (inconsequential to me) and cap space which depending on the deal could also be relatively inconsequential.

My thoughts are RGIII or Luck may be much better qb prospects then Flynn, however, do you believe that the cost in the loss of 6th overall pick plus trading additional picks and/or players to get either of them will be more beneficial to the team then not having to trade anything and simply adding Flynn? Trading for a player is entirely different and more costly then signing a player through FA. In fact trading picks and/or players to move up in the draft is nearly identical as trading for a player on another team.
I think this is the key point. If flynn's the guy, we still have two picks in the first 2 rounds (potential instant starters).

so if we need a CB, QB, OT, and WR 2 high picks won't cover all 4. especially if you feel like we need safety help or a young ILB.

best FAs for us could be flynn, grimes (or rogers :P), one of the MANY FA WRs (bowe wallace etc), and grubbs at OG. you could take 0-4 or those and draft 2 guys (one of which could be blackmon, RGIII, claiborne, kalil - one will be available at #6).

If you traded with cinncy you'd be able to get tannehill and a CB (like jenkins) at 19 and 24.

for cheap FAs, I'd definately grab 2-3 safeties at the $1mill/year range and see if we can upgrade doughty and gomes. I'd do the same for ILB and/or look at the 3rd and 4th round as a place to draft there, assuming we fill at least 2 needs in FA.

I kinda think the #2 pick should be a new RT, and a FA WR is going to be better than drafting one since SOO many are available this year and its the easiest way to save a pick. grimes is a great CB, but I bet he and rogers get bigger contracts than we'd want to give - we can either pay one of them and draft a QB or pay a QB and take claiborne. Grubbs is just a good buy if we cann swing it, but he wouldn't alleviate the need at RT and we probably won't be drafting a good OG unless we get lucky in the 3rd.

that's kinda what i'm thinking, not that it really matters .
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Id rather have Errol Flynn.
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Old 01-02-2012, 04:27 PM   #135
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LOL! Please put the crack pipe down. McNabb is finished. That's why Philadelphia was willing to give him up to a division opponent.
your right, their record and playoff wins since he left proves he was the one holding them back. Mcnabb is much better than Rex. He passes for more yards, threw less ints and defeated better teams. Those facts cant be debated.

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