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Old 01-03-2012, 01:19 PM   #46
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^^ Agreed.

Guess we can put him on the "gone" list.
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:20 PM   #47
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Shanny was totally checked out for the last game...it was one of the worst examples of clock management, game management and coaching I've seen in years. The challenge was absurd. So no real surprise Mikey didn't have anything to say to his players afterward.
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Old 01-03-2012, 03:49 PM   #48
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People act like this is something new Shanahan did
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Old 01-03-2012, 04:47 PM   #49
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While it's way too early for the 'predict the 53' thread, evaluating our roster at this point going into the offseason it's probably not too early to predict who will be in the teams plans... Here goes..

QB-Grossman (stay), Beck (gone).. Grossman will be a bridge/backup next season for the new QB but no more than a one year deal. Beck showed he has no future as an NFL QB.

RB-Hightower (50-50 but probably gone), Helu (stay), Royster (stay).. I think the Redskins are still looking for that #1 back. Helu and Royster definitely have skills to produce but neither is likely the 250-300 carry guy.

FB-Young (stay), Sellers (gone).. If Sellers is back on the Redskin sidelines, it will be as an assistant or an analyst. He's done.

T-Williams (stay), Smith (stay), Brown (gone), Locklear (gone), Polumbus (stay).. The left side is in pretty good shape with T. Williams returning and Smith providing young, quality depth.. The right side will be a rebuild, Brown can't stay healthy, Locklear was awful, Polumbus was ok and again provides young depth.

G-Lictenstieger (stay), Hurt (stay), Chester (stay), Cook (gone).. Probably the least positional turnover on the roster here. They may add another backup guard but Stieger was our best OL when he got injured so if he returns healthy, this position is pretty well set.

C-Montgomery (gone), Cook (gone).. Monty did a decent job and was an upgrade over Rabach but was still pushed back far too often and his shotgun snaps took way too long to get back to the QB. He's a very good backup but miscast as a starter.

TE-Cooley (stay), Davis (stay), Paulson (stay), Myers (gone).. Another stable position here. Davis can go either way but really hurt himself with the drug suspension so his best bet is a 2-3 year contract here. If healthy, this group can really help a rookie QB..

WR-Moss (gone), Gaffney (stay), Hankerson (stay), Armstrong (gone), Stallworth (gone), Anderson (gone), Paul (stay), Austin (gone), Robinson (stay), Banks (gone).. This will be the largest amount of turnover on the roster and probably needs the biggest overhaul.

Santana Miss (pun intended) had his worst season and won't be back. He caught less than 50% of the balls thrown his way, had his worst YPC average and lowest production numbers (catches, yards, TD) since his 2nd NFL season. He's no longer explosive deep or in getting away from defenders and he dropped WAY too many passes. At least 3 of Rex's interceptions were tipped/missed by Moss.

Armstrong, Stallworth, Anderson, Austin and Banks are all replaceable parts. Paul can become what Stallworth provided. Robinson has 4.3 speed and can be a returner (as can Paul) and Banks did nothing this season to warrant him returning. We were among the league worst in KO and punt returns and Banks fumbled 7 times. Preseason heroics can only carry you so far.

Shanahan acknowledged to the NFC East blogger for ESPN that this team needs a #1 WR and that's a priority this offseason. Expect a big push for a Desean Jackson, Dwayne Bowe or Marques Colston type of WR in free agency.
Santana stays, why is everyone always trying to get rid of Santana. It's crazy...
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Yeah Shananhan is good at embarassing players and stuff like that. But, sooner or later Shannahan, you are going to have to be responsible for that win loss record you got going on.

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Nothing quite like a losing coach who considers himself above his players.

I have little sympathy for Locklear's complaint either, but if Shanahan didn't think he was going to frustrate his veteran by passing him up to get Willie Smith PT (the right decision for the long term health of the franchise), he doesn't know what he's doing. Shanahan has no tact.

Why would anyone want to play for a coach who treats people like this?
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Nothing quite like a losing coach who considers himself above his players.

I have little sympathy for Locklear's complaint either, but if Shanahan didn't think he was going to frustrate his veteran by passing him up to get Willie Smith PT (the right decision for the long term health of the franchise), he doesn't know what he's doing. Shanahan has no tact.

Why would anyone want to play for a coach who treats people like this?
Your guess is as good as any.
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Old 01-03-2012, 05:08 PM   #53
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Jeez cry me a river, sounds like the final meeting he set up was more interesting anyway. This has always been his MO to not be at the final team meeting.

Locklear? Almost as bad as HB Blades popping off on Twitter, and he's not even in the league anymore. Locklear is close to joining him.
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Well, it's like the Haynesworth situation in the fact that there are no winning parties. There is just conflict.

Locklear and Blades are hurting the chance for future employment. I wouldn't even have addressed it, personally. It's even possible that the real source of Locklear's frustration was that the team totally laid an egg in Philadelphia.
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Nothing quite like a losing coach who considers himself above his players.

I have little sympathy for Locklear's complaint either, but if Shanahan didn't think he was going to frustrate his veteran by passing him up to get Willie Smith PT (the right decision for the long term health of the franchise), he doesn't know what he's doing. Shanahan has no tact.

Why would anyone want to play for a coach who treats people like this?
I would imagine b/c of the overwhelming number of players both present and former that have stated MS treated them fairly, even when they lost the competition for playing time.

Why would any player pay attention to a one-year sub who couldn't consistently outperform an undrafted rookie?
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My thing is why you gotta run to twitter? And then erase it like a b*tch? Not too impressed.

kinda weak from Locklear, if he wanted to talk about the issue just speak with Shanny or Bruce.
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I would imagine b/c of the overwhelming number of players both present and former that have stated MS treated them fairly, even when they lost the competition for playing time.

Why would any player pay attention to a one-year sub who couldn't consistently outperform an undrafted rookie?
I would think that plenty of the idea that Shanahan is a likable coach is that for a long time in his career he was considered among the best at his job and a guy you could win with.
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Nothing quite like a losing coach who considers himself above his players.

I have little sympathy for Locklear's complaint either, but if Shanahan didn't think he was going to frustrate his veteran by passing him up to get Willie Smith PT (the right decision for the long term health of the franchise), he doesn't know what he's doing. Shanahan has no tact.

Why would anyone want to play for a coach who treats people like this?
I don't think I have ever known a coach who had any tact...they're coaches..
AND what were you expecting? Some quality hand holding time...Some good girl gossip over Sushi....Campfires and "Blowin' in the Wind"
.....Come on man....
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I don't think I have ever known a coach who had any tact...they're coaches..
AND what were you expecting? Some quality hand holding time...Some good girl gossip over Sushi....Campfires and "Blowin' in the Wind"
.....Come on man....
I was expecting the head coach to either not believe he's more important to the organization than his players, or if he does hold that belief, to be able to be the bigger man and not get caught up in being critical of a player on his way out of the organization.

Those expectations were probably too high.
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Maybe...or maybe you were just looking for another....ridiculous shot at the Shans?
Real tired stuff.....
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