The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

Bubba305-ST21- · 01-17-2012, 02:25 PM

i really want RG3!!! what do you think smoot? stay put or trade back? and who would our first 2 picks be in your opinion and i know its way too early just curious

Shadowbyte · 01-17-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

I happen to not believe that we will trade up for Griffin. But what are you getting so worked up over? It's just a rumor you've posted.

That's because this regime has proven that they can't get the players they really want and need. 2 years in a row the Shannahan's had to "settle" for the player they drafted. All while I'm seeing other teams making moves to get the player they "want" and "need". Despite his numerous flaws at-least Cerrato was able to get the players he wanted, unlike these clowns who actually thought Grossman was the answer to our most pressing need.

SmootSmack · 01-17-2012, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba305-ST21-

i really want RG3!!! what do you think smoot? stay put or trade back? and who would our first 2 picks be in your opinion and i know its way too early just curious

You asking me if I think we should trade up for RG3? I'm not really sure, quite honestly. We have the picks to make a move but I'm not sure I see it happening.

It's definitely too early. I think the 2nd pick will be a QB (Foles or Tannehill being the most likely) and that we're going to add a FA QB before the draft (not Grossman, not Flynn either)

SmootSmack · 01-17-2012, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

That's because this regime has proven that they can't get the players they really want and need. 2 years in a row the Shannahan's had to "settle" for the player they drafted. All while I'm seeing other teams making moves to get the player they "want" and "need". Despite his numerous flaws at-least Cerrato was able to get the players he wanted, unlike these clowns who actually thought Grossman was the answer to our most pressing need.

What are you talking about? 1.) You really think the Redskins settled Ryan Kerrigan, Roy Helu, Jenkins, Hankeson etc.? 2.) You're acting like the Browns have already traded up for RG3, they might but they haven't yet 3.)If Cerrato got the players he wanted we wouldn't be talking about RG3 because we'd already have our QB in Jay Cutler 4.) Why do people think this FO gave up some big amount to get Rex? He is not and never has been a long term solution

Shadowbyte · 01-17-2012, 02:41 PM

According to Holmgren a few weeks ago he stated that the Browns will "stay the course, and not blow up what they created". Looks like he's doing exactly what he said he wasn't going to do.

Bubba305-ST21- · 01-17-2012, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

You asking me if I think we should trade up for RG3? I'm not really sure, quite honestly. We have the picks to make a move but I'm not sure I see it happening.

It's definitely too early. I think the 2nd pick will be a QB (Foles or Tannehill being the most likely) and that we're going to add a FA QB before the draft (not Grossman, not Flynn either)

who do we take with our first if we dont move up and take a qb with our second? i think cb or wr

SmootSmack · 01-17-2012, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Bubba305-ST21-

who do we take with our first if we dont move up and take a qb with our second? i think cb or wr

CB or OL I'm guessing.

Don't know that we can get Blackmon at 6 or like any other WR in the draft to take as high as 6

Ruhskins · 01-17-2012, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by SBXVII

I'm telling you RGIII won't make it to us and there will be a bidding war...

The first Robert Griffin to Browns trade rumor emerges | ProFootballTalk

Just a rumor for now, let me know when Clayton, Glazer, Mort, or Schefter start saying the same thing.

Bubba305-ST21- · 01-17-2012, 02:50 PM

that feels like a loss to me and another year of waiting to get a qb. Even if those picks turn out to be good players, we wont get anywhere without a good qb and i personally dont trust Flynn, the man has hardly played at all! We are just wasting what talent we do have on our roster and by the time we get a qb they will be old and need to be replaced. i really think we need to get RG3 or else we will just be floundering once again next season and watching his highlight reels on another team.

Ruhskins · 01-17-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

CB or OL I'm guessing.

Don't know that we can get Blackmon at 6 or like any other WR in the draft to take as high as 6

I know CB is a need, but I hate the fact that once again we would take a defensive player. I still don't think we will have a defense that would carry the team, even with a top flight CB on board, because of our inept offense.

Daseal · 01-17-2012, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Shadowbyte

Throw those RG3 dreams out of the window. I knew this would happen. Thanks to Arthur Blank Cleveland is definitely going to land RG3 next year and not the Redskins. Another strike against this hapless regime who hasn't done anything yet to improve our team from where it stood prior to them coming in. This will be the 3rd year in a row where these clowns were unable to land a franchise QB. I know my vitriol is premature but Cleveland has more to offer than we do. I even went to numerous Cleveland Browns forums and their fans are clamoring for him. Not saying the fans will dictate who Holmgren drafts but will most certainly have some degree of influence once the local media pressure kicks in to high gear.

PROJECTED TRADE: Several teams are going to try and move up to get Griffin but the Browns have the most ammo -- the fourth overall pick and a late first-rounder or high picks in later rounds. Cleveland needs Griffin -- and wants him, according to league sources -- and the Rams will still get their man.

Mock Drafts 2012: Richardson could slip to Bengals at No. 17

I vehemently disagree with your post. Shanahan is the first coach in a long time that's coming in here and rebuilding this franchise the right way. Of course there were some misses, but there isn't a single organization that doesn't make mistakes. I remember this board clamoring when McNabb was brought in and the move heavily praised by fans.

Shannahan stated that his focus was on the defense and switching a 4-3 to a 3-4. Our defense went from 31st last season to 13th this season. If we improve our secondary I see this defense being formidble for many years to come. Especially as the players continue to understand the 3-4 and we get players built for the type of scheme we're running.

In addition, Shanahan throughout his career has had succesful offenses. I think we see an emphasis on building a potent offense in DC and I have no doubt he is capable of doing that. He didn't get fired in Denver because his offense wasn't producing. His defense was absolutely pathetic.

It takes time to rebuild a team. While Griffin is a great prospect, he isn't a sure thing. Can you imagine giving up 4-6 fairly high picks for a player and not have him pan out? I can imagine it now. Fans and media crucifying Shanahan for such a 'stupid move.' If going up to get RGIII is affordable, then I'm all for it -- but if it will cost the farm, stay put or move back and continue to build the entire team.

As I said in another thread. I could see us going after an FA QB such as Flynn. Blackmon or Floyd (hopefully Blackmon) in the 1st, then Foles/Tannehill in the 2nd. I want to see Washington build a perrenial winner. I'm fine taking some lumps in order to get both a scheme and young personnel established.

took the 31st ranked defense to the 13th ranked defense

NC_Skins · 01-17-2012, 02:56 PM

You know how many Skins fans are going to be borderline suicide come draft day if Shanahan doesn't move up to get RGIII and drafts a CB at the #6 spot?....lol I imagine prozac sales will skyrocket in the DC area.

Shadowbyte · 01-17-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SmootSmack

What are you talking about? 1.) You really think the Redskins settled Ryan Kerrigan, Roy Helu, Jenkins, Hankeson etc.? 2.) You're acting like the Browns have already traded up for RG3, they might but they haven't yet 3.)If Cerrato got the players he wanted we wouldn't be talking about RG3 because we'd already have our QB in Jay Cutler 4.) Why do people think this FO gave up some big amount to get Rex? He is not and never has been a long term solution

Yes we settled for Ryan Kerrigan(im not saying he's not good), that's why we traded back. You don't trade back unless the player you really wanted was already drafted. Roy Helu was a third stringer who only got to play when Hightower went down and Torrain was released, he wasn't drafted to be a starter. Hankerson, was a good pick, but Shannahan still sat him on the bench and allowed his old guys like Stalworth and Gaffney get a majority of the snaps. Without getting a franchise QB were looking at more 6-10 seasons for years to come.

The Shannhans have done nothing to prove that can acquire, draft, or develop an elite QB. I'm tired of everyone making excuses for the Shannhans ineptitude. I'm actually more pissed that we didn't get Jake Locker last year, someone who we could of dealt for and landed. Now we're going to have to "settle" for whatever 2nd rate QB is out there since the Shannahans are incapable of getting a true franchise QB.

SmootSmack · 01-17-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruhskins

I know CB is a need, but I hate the fact that once again we would take a defensive player. I still don't think we will have a defense that would carry the team, even with a top flight CB on board, because of our inept offense.

My gut feeling right now is that our opening day starting QB is currently on an NFL roster...though not ours

NC_Skins · 01-17-2012, 02:59 PM

Matt Leinart, did he sign a 1 or 2 year deal to stay in Houston?

01-17-2012, 02:25 PM	#586
Bubba305-ST21- Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 25 Posts: 672	Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search i really want RG3!!! what do you think smoot? stay put or trade back? and who would our first 2 picks be in your opinion and i know its way too early just curious __________________ never another.....R.I.P. Sean T #21

01-17-2012, 02:41 PM	#590
Shadowbyte Special Teams Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 383	Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search According to Holmgren a few weeks ago he stated that the Browns will "stay the course, and not blow up what they created". Looks like he's doing exactly what he said he wasn't going to do.

01-17-2012, 02:50 PM	#594
Bubba305-ST21- Impact Rookie Join Date: Apr 2008 Age: 25 Posts: 672	Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search that feels like a loss to me and another year of waiting to get a qb. Even if those picks turn out to be good players, we wont get anywhere without a good qb and i personally dont trust Flynn, the man has hardly played at all! We are just wasting what talent we do have on our roster and by the time we get a qb they will be old and need to be replaced. i really think we need to get RG3 or else we will just be floundering once again next season and watching his highlight reels on another team. __________________ never another.....R.I.P. Sean T #21

01-17-2012, 02:56 PM	#597
NC_Skins Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,288	Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search You know how many Skins fans are going to be borderline suicide come draft day if Shanahan doesn't move up to get RGIII and drafts a CB at the #6 spot?....lol I imagine prozac sales will skyrocket in the DC area. __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty

01-17-2012, 02:59 PM	#600
NC_Skins Franchise Player Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 8,288	Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search Matt Leinart, did he sign a 1 or 2 year deal to stay in Houston? __________________ "So let me get this straight. We have the event of the year on TV with millions watching around the world... and people want a punt, pass, and kick competition to be the halftime entertainment?? Folks, don't quit your day jobs."- Matty Last edited by NC_Skins; 01-17-2012 at 03:17 PM.

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