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Old 01-17-2012, 05:04 PM   #616
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Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

Also, same thing goes for "the Redskins will trade up for RGIII" rumors.

So you can maybe take a guess where all these rumors are coming from? If not the Browns or Redskins, then...
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Old 01-17-2012, 05:12 PM   #617
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yea i agree. but i would also hate to see us sit back and not try and get him and him get drafted and be on highlights for years to come as he helps a young team mature and make the playoffs while we are on here debating again on who we should get at qb. I just think guys like Griffin are far and few between with his accuracy, athletic ability, and most important his mindset. we need him.
Funny the same thing was said about Locker last year. Also the opposite was said about Dalton. I really wish we had taken Dalton just to quiet down the panicked "we have to get a Rookie QB" because no one else can get the job done. Franchise QBs are developed and work well over years of service, what you want is a flash in the pan.... Another Mile Vick, how many SB's did he win? I'd rather have someone who can be developed and take this team into the play offs for many years because he is the right QB for our system vs having a highlight reel.
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Old 01-17-2012, 05:18 PM   #618
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I know Holmgren isn't great with secrecy, but I want to point out that the overwhelming likelihood of the Browns <3 RGIII rumors are coming from outside the Browns organization. That's not to say that the Browns don't like RGIII, but the people who think the Browns might actually give up two first rounders to move up are probably not employees of the Browns.
Your right but lets not forget Miami and the Browns have commented on the fact that RG3 is worh taking because he fits into any system... According to the Browns HC. Which is why the Browns HC was supposed to get reprimanded for commenting on a college player who had not declared yet.

Trust me I'm sure their interested especially since their drafted QB didn't play lights out. Miami's interested too. I'd be supprised if the Rams and Vikes are not somewhat interested and looking at possibly taking him.
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RG3 had better overall production and accomplishments than Vick had coming out. RG3 has a more stable upbringing than Vick. RG3 is more intelligent than Vick. Why would these facts make one think RG3's career would be similiar?
I just don't see what all the fuss is with having to pay a premium for the right to draft RGIII. Is the extra cornerback, receiver, or linebacker worth not getting a franchise QB? An elite prospect that can make the team contenders year in and year out.

Let me tell you something, the rest of the NFC East is praying we don't get this guy. They don't want to face him as a rookie and they sure as hell don't want to face him when he starts to come into his own around year 3. I see this guy as a top 5 QB when he develops and certainly he'll end up being the best QB in the East. You just don't pass up an opportunity to take the guy that can turn around your team because you want to be frugal.
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I just don't see what all the fuss is with having to pay a premium for the right to draft RGIII. Is the extra cornerback, receiver, or linebacker worth not getting a franchise QB? An elite prospect that can make the team contenders year in and year out.

Let me tell you something, the rest of the NFC East is praying we don't get this guy. They don't want to face him as a rookie and they sure as hell don't want to face him when he starts to come into his own around year 3. I see this guy as a top 5 QB when he develops and certainly he'll end up being the best QB in the East. You just don't pass up an opportunity to take the guy that can turn around your team because you want to be frugal.
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And of course, next years class will be better.
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I'm with Dirtbag here. I've always been a fan of acquiring picks by trading back in the draft. One player does not make any team a contender......That was until I watched the Colts, a perennial powerhouse, fall to the number 1 pick. I'm not saying RGIII is Peyton Manning, but one guy can make a difference.
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Ditto to the above posts. It is worth a high price to have a dynamic franchise QB.
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Matt Flynn will be signed March 1

#Hail to the Redskins
Even if we do get Flynn, he can't be our only QB plan, right? We'd still need to draft a QB high IMO.
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^ Aggreed Flynn is not the end all-be all for this team See Matt Cassel, he may be nothing more then a system QB who looked good in one game.
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Lorenzo Alexander was on Ch 4 tonight saying the Skins should go after Flynn.
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While I don't know college football at all, from his highlights I tend to agree that RGIII seems to be the kind of talent worth mortgaging the teams future.

With that said, if he truly is the phenom he seems to be, is there any chance that the Colts draft him over Luck? New GM and Coach might think he's a better fit.

And if he's not good enough to be in the same conversation as Luck, is he still worth mortgaging the teams future?
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While I don't know college football at all, from his highlights I tend to agree that RGIII seems to be the kind of talent worth mortgaging the teams future.

With that said, if he truly is the phenom he seems to be, is there any chance that the Colts draft him over Luck? New GM and Coach might think he's a better fit.
I've heard from a friend who has a contact within the Colts' organization that they're high on RGIII, and that Andrew Luck isn't necessarily a lock to be their pick. Take it for what it's worth. It is second-hand info, but my friend is well connected and hasn't let me down before.

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I just don't see what all the fuss is with having to pay a premium for the right to draft RGIII. Is the extra cornerback, receiver, or linebacker worth not getting a franchise QB? An elite prospect that can make the team contenders year in and year out.

Let me tell you something, the rest of the NFC East is praying we don't get this guy. They don't want to face him as a rookie and they sure as hell don't want to face him when he starts to come into his own around year 3. I see this guy as a top 5 QB when he develops and certainly he'll end up being the best QB in the East. You just don't pass up an opportunity to take the guy that can turn around your team because you want to be frugal.
Totally agreed. Well put. This is a QB league, and we don't have anyone on the roster who is even close to being a competitive starter in the league, let alone championship caliber. Yes, we have a lot of holes, but the biggest one is QB. Plug that one and then fill in the rest. I think Shanny & Allen have the same philosophy but just whiffed big time on Dono.

I cannot understand what the knock is on RGIII. Because of the hype? I know there's a lot of hyped players who tanked. Should that hurt his draft stock? For every JaMarcus Russell & Ryan Leaf, there's a Cam Newton & Peyton Manning. Then the whole skill set argument not fitting Shanny's system. Come on! He's a mobile, pin point passer with a dangerous deep ball. Hello. He's not a run first QB, but he is an elite scrambler. I don't understand the criticism either that he ran the spread in college. You know who else ran the spread in college and it's translated well to the pros? Drew Brees.

Of course, I'm on the RGIII bandwagon. I would love a high character leader for this team who can straight up ball. If his playmaking ability and leadership transfer over to the pros, he will inspire the team and win more games for us. Wouldn't we all like to see some inspired football for a change? If he's not the franchise QB, I still think the team needs to do whatever it takes to find one, and then, plug up the holes. That's how important a franchise QB is in this league.

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Old 01-17-2012, 08:31 PM   #629
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Count me in on the "let's go get our qb at whatever cost" bandwagon. The NFL today is a qb driven league, and we don't have one. Let's not settle this time.
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I feel like a lot of people have changed their opinion on the whole trade picks to get your QB idea. I don't remember such a groundswell of support for Cutler
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