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Old 01-20-2012, 05:03 PM   #781
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Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

I'll say this: trading a bunch of picks to draft a 22 year old quarterback isn't mortgaging the future. It's betting the future on a single entity.

Trading a ton of picks for a guy like 26 year old Jay Cutler or 31 year old Carson Palmer is mortgaging the future. But if you are going to develop the asset yourself, its not the same thing as trying to trade a ton of draft value for a "finished product" who is already making a ton of money.

It's scenarios like the second that fans who don't get it dream up. It's that kind of "we need to get a quarterback" discussion that makes actually tries to separate having a quarterback from winning games. Trading a bunch of picks for a higher pick is just what you do if you don't like your positioning in a draft.
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Old 01-20-2012, 05:07 PM   #782
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The teams needs to clean house at QB. I don't hate Rex but it's time to move on completely
Whats the most recent comp for a coach/GM or coach or GM clearing house at quarterback three years in? I'm sure it's happened at some point, but I can't remember a recent case where the QB position got wiped entirely by an existing coaching staff.

I'm not against the idea, I am just thinking that it doesn't ever happen.
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Old 01-20-2012, 06:52 PM   #783
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The teams needs to clean house at QB. I don't hate Rex but it's time to move on completely
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Whats the most recent comp for a coach/GM or coach or GM clearing house at quarterback three years in? I'm sure it's happened at some point, but I can't remember a recent case where the QB position got wiped entirely by an existing coaching staff.

I'm not against the idea, I am just thinking that it doesn't ever happen.
I can't think of any staff completely cleaning house at the QB position either.
And the way this staff placed the emphasis on knowing the scheme I can't see it happening.
If I were a betting man I think at least 1 if not both of the Rex/Beck will be back.
Hopefully they won't be taking snaps past week 8 at the latest.
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Old 01-20-2012, 07:48 PM   #784
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I can't think of any staff completely cleaning house at the QB position either.
And the way this staff placed the emphasis on knowing the scheme I can't see it happening.
If I were a betting man I think at least 1 if not both of the Rex/Beck will be back.
Hopefully they won't be taking snaps past week 8 at the latest.
I doubt if one of them will be back next season. If the Redskins draft a QB early in the first round of April's NFL draft, then they will have 4 QBs on the active roster at the start of the season. People tend to forget that Jonathan Crompton was signed to the active roster after the season was over. Along with the highly drafted QB, Grossman will be there as well. Grossman and Beck are both around the same age, so why would they keep two journeyman quarterbacks, and one of them proved to be ineffective last season? The fact that the coaching staff preferred Grossman over Beck during the last half of the season doesn't bode well for Beck coming back next season.

Crompton, who was on the practice squad all last year, could very well be the number III quarterback on the depth chart heading into the next season.
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Old 01-20-2012, 08:00 PM   #785
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Whats the most recent comp for a coach/GM or coach or GM clearing house at quarterback three years in? I'm sure it's happened at some point, but I can't remember a recent case where the QB position got wiped entirely by an existing coaching staff.

I'm not against the idea, I am just thinking that it doesn't ever happen.
No it doesn't. Because generally the head coach and it offensive coordinator would have been fired by now for making as many mistakes with the offense and at the quarterback position as the shanahans have.

Mcnabb - bust
Grossman - bust
Beck - bust
Not having a single young developmentatal qb on the roster in two full seasons - unforgivable.

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Old 01-20-2012, 08:26 PM   #786
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a back up that knows the system well can help a rookie qb in practice and shit, id keep rex as a back up
I know what your saying but I'm more afraid whoever we bring in would pick up Grossmans bad habit just watching him. I too am ready to cut bait with Grossman and Beck and quite possibly Crompton.

Bring in Flynn from FA, get a great QB in the draft, and either bring in a late round draft pick at QB also or get a UDFA and let them all battle it out.
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No it doesn't. Because generally the head coach and it offensive coordinator would have been fired by now for making as many mistakes with the offense and at the quarterback position as the shanahans have.

Mcnabb - bust
Grossman - bust
Beck - bust
Not having a single young developmentatal qb on the roster in two full seasons - unforgivable.
Lol Rex ain't a bust he's the same qb he's been since college. Mediocre.
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Old 01-20-2012, 09:01 PM   #788
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I agree, we need to clean house at the QB position. They don't need a crutch. Start fresh get some players who want to win.
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I really can't believe anyone would still support Rex after seeing him the past season +. Heck, just look at his entire career. Turnover machine.

He's a lock for 2 turnovers a game, at the least. You just can't win in this league when you're giving the ball up like that.
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I agree with you 200%; Rex is not a satisfactory QB.

Having said that, look at the QB that the Skins had "competing with Rex" in training camp on something purported to be an equal footing. Compared to John Beck, Rex Grossman looks like a perennial All-Pro candidate...
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:01 PM   #790
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I doubt if one of them will be back next season.
Doesn't this^^ contradict this:
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Along with the highly drafted QB, Grossman will be there as well
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Remember when I called you a genius 30?
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Old 01-20-2012, 11:34 PM   #792
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Beck stick around until final cuts
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i would vomit if he did.
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If Beck is the starter next season, I would conclude that Shanny is tanking games to get in position to draft Barkley.
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Old 01-21-2012, 12:03 PM   #795
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I wouldn't be surprised to see Beck stick around until final cuts
Me neither, I wouldn't be surprised if Beck plays well during training camp.
I never understood why fans have such animosity towards Beck yet a lot of the same people actually like Rex.
*shrugs*
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