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Old 01-04-2012, 05:19 AM   #121
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Finley is good, but he is nowhere near Graham, Gronkowski, or even Antonio Gates.
I agree with GTripp, I certainly think he is just as good as all of the above. Its just that Graham and Grankowski get thrown to more and are a bigger part of each of their teams gameplan, the Packers have weapons on offense for days.
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Old 01-04-2012, 06:54 AM   #122
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Finley is good, but he is nowhere near Graham, Gronkowski, or even Antonio Gates.
Finley, quietly in the top 5 for drops this season. No sense to get Finley with Fred Davis here and Davis is gonna be much more affordable.
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Old 01-04-2012, 07:52 AM   #123
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My biggest fear with Flynn is not that he'll be the next Kolb but rather the next Brees. An UFA franchise changing QB that was there for the taking but passed up by us.
Good point. We didn't even sneeze in his direction when he was available. How's his bum shoulder of his holding up in New Orleans?
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Foles is the 3rd best QB in this draft, not Jones, not Tannehill. In my opinion he's the one to watch.

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Finley, quietly in the top 5 for drops this season. No sense to get Finley with Fred Davis here and Davis is gonna be much more affordable.
Who said anything about bringing Finley here?
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Who said anything about bringing Finley here?
no one, just talking about his overall ability. he is a free agent, as is Fred Davis, i just rather have Davis.
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would love to land bradford but why would st.louis trade him? he is not the problem,unless they think rg3 is better than him .then i would give up our no.1 pick for him.that would be great just don,t see the rams trading him . can somebody explain more thanks...
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Old 01-04-2012, 09:25 AM   #128
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Looking at Tannehill and Jones I don't look at their stats/performance because their indelibly linked to the circumstances that occur with their surrounding team and coaching.
Therefore I'm not concerned nor do I worry about perceived 'dips' in performance because it doesn't change their physical skillset.
Its why a prospect like Locker can have a perceived 'bad' season and still get drafted top 10.

I only look at skillset/talent: can/how does their skillset project at the next level.

Their scheme doesn't matter much to me because all the prospect will(should) have the best coaching of their lives at the next level.

The prospects should all have their best football ahead of them.
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He's good enough to throw people open, and he's talented enough to drop in a throw 40 yards downfield in a hole in the coverage (which Tannehill can't do), but too often, Jones just plays confused. And I can't understand why............I guess what I'm saying is that if Jones isn't going to respond to coaching, I can't justify keeping him ranked above Tannehill, no matter how talented his right arm is.
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As far as the arm talent difference between Jones and Tannehill I just don't see it.
Tannehill can flat out hum it; the litmus test for NFL arm strength from the far hash to the far sideline with ease.
I've seen him hit the seam with ease and drop in 'bucket' throws.

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Tannehill=Jones arm talent
Tannehill>Jones athleticism(avoid)/playmaking
Jones=experience; especially in know when/what type of throw to use in a given situation
Tannehill>Jones integration into Kyle's offense because of the A&M/Houston offense connection

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Don't get me wrong I like Jones.(subtracting Broyles from that offense hurt OU)
He reminds me of a more mobile Ryan Mallett and I liked Mallett alot.
I'm just hashing out why I rank Tannehill ahead for this team.
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To be clear, getting Bradford was always going to be a tough putt.
In your estimation does Jeff Fisher in St loius raise or lower our chances of getting Bradford?
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Although I seem to be the only one here arguing for grabbing Tannehill or Jones at #6, this is why. I would not trade back any later than #8. Otherwise the Fins or Seahawks may grab our guy, thus meaning we've missed our guy for the second straight year. Reach be damned - get your guy.
Amen! I am so sick of the lets get cute attitude with the most important fkn position in the sport!
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would love to land bradford but why would st.louis trade him? he is not the problem,unless they think rg3 is better than him .then i would give up our no.1 pick for him.that would be great just don,t see the rams trading him . can somebody explain more thanks...
I don't see the Rams drafting RG III unless they feel that he's the only guy who can compensate for not having a good offensive line and still make big plays. I think it's a better move for the Rams to trade down (they don't have to trade down that far) to pick up more picks to help rebuild the offensive line. I think ultimately, they keep Sam Bradford.

In this case, it means some team having enough fire power to rocket up to that pick to land RG III. I don't think it's Miami, as I feel they are fine with going into next season with Matt Moore. Cleveland is a possibility, and I'm not sure if the Redskins are willing to move up to land RG III. I know it was rumored of Denver to move up, but they're not even picking in the first 20 picks, I would think they would have to give up a King's ransom and then some to move all the up to the Rams pick.

I'm starting to believe that the Redskins are not going to make a big splash this offseason for that star QB. They DO have to replace John Beck with a competent backup, but other than that, I'm thinking the Redskins front office continues on with their current plan and THEN maybe looks at the quarterback of the future next offseason.

The big IF is, IF the Redskins stay relatively healthy and have better depth built on the offensive line and in some key positions, the Redskins might win 8 to 10 games. If they win 10 games WITH Rex Grossman this coming season (yes, I know it's a stretch) then Shanahan is going to look like a genius in being patient and getting that future franchise QB next year. By his fifth season, the Redskins will be solid.
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Old 01-04-2012, 10:43 AM   #132
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I don't see the Rams drafting RG III unless they feel that he's the only guy who can compensate for not having a good offensive line and still make big plays. I think it's a better move for the Rams to trade down (they don't have to trade down that far) to pick up more picks to help rebuild the offensive line. I think ultimately, they keep Sam Bradford.

In this case, it means some team having enough fire power to rocket up to that pick to land RG III. I don't think it's Miami, as I feel they are fine with going into next season with Matt Moore. Cleveland is a possibility, and I'm not sure if the Redskins are willing to move up to land RG III. I know it was rumored of Denver to move up, but they're not even picking in the first 20 picks, I would think they would have to give up a King's ransom and then some to move all the up to the Rams pick.

I'm starting to believe that the Redskins are not going to make a big splash this offseason for that star QB. They DO have to replace John Beck with a competent backup, but other than that, I'm thinking the Redskins front office continues on with their current plan and THEN maybe looks at the quarterback of the future next offseason.

The big IF is, IF the Redskins stay relatively healthy and have better depth built on the offensive line and in some key positions, the Redskins might win 8 to 10 games. If they win 10 games WITH Rex Grossman this coming season (yes, I know it's a stretch) then Shanahan is going to look like a genius in being patient and getting that future franchise QB next year. By his fifth season, the Redskins will be solid.
That's a HUGE if considering the deficiencies we have with depth at a number of positions. We are going to have to wheel and deal in FA to upgrade a lot of those spots or be a big player in the trade down game again this year in the draft. Or both...
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Oddly, the same thing that happened to Tannehill also happened to Dominique Davis as soon as I said I liked him as a prospect: he really started to struggle down the stretch with his reads and throws. Against very mediocre college defenses.

I can't find an ECU weekly injury report anywhere so I have no idea what happened to Davis either.
It wasn't a injury. ECU alum and employee here. Davis struggles if is primary read isn't open. He stares down receivers and often makes poor decisions by throwing into double/triple coverage (ala...Rex "**** it i'm going deep") on deep routes.

Even when he was great last year, I never thought he was a NFL type of quarterback. I personally thought he should have been benched a few times this season with his play, but other games would make you marvel. (navy)
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Book us trading up to get RGIII or Luck!.......IT WILL HAPPEN!
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Old 01-04-2012, 12:43 PM   #135
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I can't see St Louis trading Bradford either for an unknown. I think they'll wind up trading the pick too. They could be the big winners on draft day if they do.
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