The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

irish · 02-23-2012, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mattyk

Why is that not a good sign?

Luck isn't throwing either.

They have nothing to gain.

It just seems to me that if a QB doesnt want to throw he's trying to hide something like a weak arm or inaccuracy. Throwing is everything for an NFL QB. If you have nothing to gain why bother going to Indy at all?

Higskin · 02-23-2012, 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

They can't trade him until the 13th. Anything negotiated prior to that is tampering and also teams can't franchise a player with the idea of trading him. So, if I'm a team wanting Flynn, I refuse to give them anything and then report them to the league for the violation.

Should have written "found out if they could trade him by Mar13th".

Packers maneuvering franchise tag for Flynn?

"Though the Packers must franchise him by March 5, he won't count against their cap until March 13, the first day of the league calendar. The one thing they don't want to happen is to get stuck with Flynn on their roster at $14.4 million with no trade partner."

skinsfan69 · 02-23-2012, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mredskins

YES! Must watch TV!

I agree. Love watching Gruden with the QB's. I remember watching Cam Newton last year and I was like.."this guy has bust written all over him!"

skinsfan69 · 02-23-2012, 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irish

It just seems to me that if a QB doesnt want to throw he's trying to hide something like a weak arm or inaccuracy. Throwing is everything for an NFL QB. If you have nothing to gain why bother going to Indy at all?

Well RG3 doesn't have a weak arm and has great accuracy on his deep ball. Probably the best deep ball thrower in the draft. A lot of guys don't throw at the combine. No big deal.

The guys go to meet the teams and talk with them. It's not just about the drills. They all throw at their pro days.

JoeRedskin · 02-23-2012, 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

They can't trade him until the 13th. Anything negotiated prior to that is tampering and also teams can't franchise a player with the idea of trading him. So, if I'm a team wanting Flynn, I refuse to give them anything and then report them to the league for the violation.

Are you sure? W/out looking it up, it seems to me many a player has been franchised with the intent of getting a trade. How would you prove that the "intent to trade" (barring something idiotic like the GM saying "Oh, we don't want him, we just tagged him to trade him")?

SBXVII · 02-23-2012, 10:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

They can't trade him until the 13th. Anything negotiated prior to that is tampering and also teams can't franchise a player with the idea of trading him. So, if I'm a team wanting Flynn, I refuse to give them anything and then report them to the league for the violation.

?

It's only tampering if other teams try to talk with him or his agent. Other teams can talk to the organization. The organization can talk to other teams now even in effect shopping him to see what they could get for him. If they think there is enough interest they should tag him and see what trade they could get. It also would help out Miami if they plan to sign him and GB wants to help them out. Flynn doesn't see the open market and doesn't get a choice as to where he wants to go. Even if it is Miami. It also ensures he does not go to another NFC team.

It pisses me off but who cares.

Mattyk · 02-23-2012, 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by irish

It just seems to me that if a QB doesnt want to throw he's trying to hide something like a weak arm or inaccuracy. Throwing is everything for an NFL QB. If you have nothing to gain why bother going to Indy at all?

The top QBs often don't throw. This is nothing new.

Going to Indy is still important for the interview process.

los panda · 02-23-2012, 11:08 AM

and to get under armour gear to be auction off at a later time

los panda · 02-23-2012, 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by diehard

It looked like the guys had the Staples "Easy Button" implanted in their chest...

what did they claim the purpose was?

los panda · 02-23-2012, 11:40 AM

spooky

SBXVII · 02-23-2012, 01:25 PM

Ok so with Flynn being such a bad QB and the Packers deciding to possibly tag such a bad, unknown, 2nd rate QB I wonder what Miami is going to do and how that will effect the Skins? Why do I ask? because a lot of people figured Miami would make a big play for Flynn. Now that he might be off the table and they are not re-signing Henne then who do they bring in and who do they draft? Miami was a team I heard that was interested in Weeden also, which is why I ask because if they are and the Skins are high on Weeden then no way should the Skins trade back to late 1st round and let Miami take him. We either make a trade to a position prior to Miami or just take Weeden at #6.

los panda · 02-23-2012, 01:35 PM

i doubt the pack plan to keep him on the roster with a number like $14.4M. any team that wanted him can still have him

NC_Skins · 02-23-2012, 01:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JoeRedskin

Are you sure? W/out looking it up, it seems to me many a player has been franchised with the intent of getting a trade. How would you prove that the "intent to trade" (barring something idiotic like the GM saying "Oh, we don't want him, we just tagged him to trade him")?

Flynn departure may not aid Packers - JSOnline

Quote:

So once the Packers tag Flynn, that $14 million counts against their salary cap. Flynn would automatically become the highest-paid player on the team in terms of annual salary.

NFL teams are prohibited from trading franchise players. In fact, the rules say you may not franchise a player with the intent to sign him to a contract and then trade him. However, this rule has been broken before and the NFL tends to look the other way.

This is where I got this from. Like you said, how could you really prove that?

JoeRedskin · 02-23-2012, 01:54 PM

^^ Okay. Thanks for the clarification.

Son Of Man · 02-23-2012, 02:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NC_Skins

Flynn departure may not aid Packers - JSOnline

This is where I got this from. Like you said, how could you really prove that?

They sure looked the other way when the Pats traded Cassel...if my memory is correct.

02-23-2012, 11:08 AM	#1433
los panda Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: los angeles, ca Age: 28 Posts: 3,849	Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search and to get under armour gear to be auction off at a later time __________________ 7 9 21 28 33 42 43 44 49 65 70 81

02-23-2012, 11:40 AM	#1435
los panda Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: los angeles, ca Age: 28 Posts: 3,849	Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search spooky __________________ 7 9 21 28 33 42 43 44 49 65 70 81

02-23-2012, 01:25 PM	#1436
SBXVII Pro Bowl Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Virginia Posts: 7,498	Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search Ok so with Flynn being such a bad QB and the Packers deciding to possibly tag such a bad, unknown, 2nd rate QB I wonder what Miami is going to do and how that will effect the Skins? Why do I ask? because a lot of people figured Miami would make a big play for Flynn. Now that he might be off the table and they are not re-signing Henne then who do they bring in and who do they draft? Miami was a team I heard that was interested in Weeden also, which is why I ask because if they are and the Skins are high on Weeden then no way should the Skins trade back to late 1st round and let Miami take him. We either make a trade to a position prior to Miami or just take Weeden at #6.

02-23-2012, 01:35 PM	#1437
los panda Playmaker Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: los angeles, ca Age: 28 Posts: 3,849	Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search i doubt the pack plan to keep him on the roster with a number like $14.4M. any team that wanted him can still have him __________________ 7 9 21 28 33 42 43 44 49 65 70 81

02-23-2012, 01:54 PM	#1439
JoeRedskin Contains football related knowledge Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Second Star On The Right Age: 50 Posts: 7,140	Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search ^^ Okay. Thanks for the clarification. __________________ My Little Pony: Friendship is magic? or ... a repressive matriarchal society where individuals' roles are defined by their immutable physical characteristics and governance is reserved for those who demonstrate the genetic purity of the pony master race?

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Switch to Hybrid Mode Switch to Threaded Mode

The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

Redskins Locker Room