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Old 02-24-2012, 08:57 PM   #1441
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Re: The "Inside Word" on the QB Search

What is the difference between Colt McCoy and Matt Flynn that would cause the Browns to go after him?

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“I’m a big Colt McCoy fan. If you look at what he did in high school, what he did at Texas — I don’t think he had a good supporting cast with the Browns.

“I don’t think he had wide receivers that helped him. I don’t think the running back situation helped him. The bottom line is he won 50 games in college which at that time was an all-time high.”

Griffin is bigger, faster and stronger than McCoy. Brandt’s evaluation of Griffin is very high. Unlike draft analysts working for ESPN and the NFL Network, Brandt is not using this forum to advise the Browns on how to use their draft picks.

“Colt is 6-foot-1,” Brandt said. “Maybe he’s not as big as you want him to be, but the guy’s won games. That’s what you have to see. The quarterback is so important in our game today that if you put enough good players around him he’s going to win
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Old 02-25-2012, 03:38 AM   #1442
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What is the difference between Colt McCoy and Matt Flynn that would cause the Browns to go after him?
Only thing I can even think of is that they evaluate Flynn as the guy they want McCoy to become. But the truth is that McCoy is probably already better than Flynn, and if you move Flynn from the Packers offense to the Browns, you are going to condense Matt Flynn into NFL oblivion.
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Only thing I can even think of is that they evaluate Flynn as the guy they want McCoy to become. But the truth is that McCoy is probably already better than Flynn, and if you move Flynn from the Packers offense to the Browns, you are going to condense Matt Flynn into NFL oblivion.
And I'm sure a smart team FO that includes Mike Holmgren know this.
Heck, Holmgren practically evented the whole flipping the late round QB pump and dump scam that Reid and now McCarthy are duplicating.
Maybe scam is a bit harsh because some of the late round QBs that Holmgren developed became good NFL QBs.
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And I'm sure a smart team FO that includes Mike Holmgren know this.
Heck, Holmgren practically evented the whole flipping the late round QB pump and dump scam that Reid and now McCarthy are duplicating.
Maybe scam is a bit harsh because some of the late round QBs that Holmgren developed became good NFL QBs.
I don't know if I'd call Cleveland a smart FO, I kind of lump them in with the Redskins in terms of general aptitude. Maybe that's just a perception problem. I guess they were smart enough to get McCoy in the third round.

I actually think scam is a good word because they proved that it's easy to mess with people's perception of quarterbacks. I would argue that generally speaking, the public -- and even a lot of pro talent evaluators -- don't really know what they are looking for in quarterbacks, so they fall back on meaningless stuff like intangibles and quarterback wins. And those that hold the magic beans simply are in the business of finding the right buyer. I'm looking at you, Rod Graves.
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Old 02-25-2012, 09:11 AM   #1445
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Do you get a prize for being first to post on the 100th page of the thread GTripp?!
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Yes! Looking more and more likely like RG3 in DC.

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Somtimes i get the feeling that we may do a trade up for RGIII and make an offer to Manning. I know it sounds crazy but anything can happen.
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I could see us doing that if Peyton is okay having someone waiting in the wings. Rotoworld linked that previous article and said Arizona and Miami will be more aggressive than us in trying to sign Manning.
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Overall, all I really ask is that no matter what our QB solution is that we don't have 1) another year of Rex 2) Give up 2-3 years worth of high picks or 3) sign Orton as our "QB of the future".

I'm OK with two firsts and MAYBE a second to move up for RGIII.
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Overall, all I really ask is that no matter what our QB solution is that we don't have 1) another year of Rex 2) Give up 2-3 years worth of high picks or 3) sign Orton as our "QB of the future".

I'm OK with two firsts and MAYBE a second to move up for RGIII.
4) Start John Beck for 3 games
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