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Old 02-24-2012, 11:11 AM   #1456
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Fisher has said all along one of the main reasons for taking that job was Bradford. He's going to build around him.
Yea I hear you but I was still clinging. Maybe I just missed it but I heard that stuff mentioned by others but not actually straight from his mouth until today.
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It just seems to me that if a QB doesnt want to throw he's trying to hide something like a weak arm or inaccuracy. Throwing is everything for an NFL QB. If you have nothing to gain why bother going to Indy at all?
There is zero to gain at all for a top-level QB to throw. The only thing it could do is diminish their prospects. I mean they're top-level because everyone has seen them play and knows what they are capable of. They can't be "hiding" anything because they just finished a college football season where they showed how awesome they are. What happens when they go to the combine and tweak an oblique and can't get the ball down the field? I mean they can't possibly show anything physically to further their prospects. There is nothing to be gained. They do go to Indy to talk and interview as Matty said because that is the stuff that watching them play doesn't show.
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Fisher has said all along one of the main reasons for taking that job was Bradford. He's going to build around him.
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Report: Browns expected to make a play for Matt Flynn bit.ly/zkTgTk
That would be awesome. Too early to put all our eggs (hopes) into that basket just yet though...
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Old 02-24-2012, 01:39 PM   #1460
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Excellent article. I loved this quote:

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Agents will use the media to promote their players. Instead, as a fan, think like a club executive and read between the lines of every report.
Also highlights a key difference between the Redskins of old and the Redskins of today. Even in this day and age, agents will use the Redskins' name to drum up bidding wars for their players as a result of our past history. But the reality is Shanny/Allen will take the explore all options/leave the bidding war route instead of getting caught up in the hype of a player as in years' past.

To sum up, it's nice to know we have competent execs in charge.
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I can't jump for joy yet? Would CLE sign Flynn, draft RG3, and keep McCoy?
It would be significant step in the right directions for our hopes of trading up, but this early in the game, especially with it just being initial rumors, it could be a Paul Pierce pump fake so don't leave your feet just yet...
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New #Rams head coach Jeff Fisher:"We have a lot of options and we're going to be prepared." Said trading Sam Bradford is NOT an option.

Stings a bit...Looks like my last shred of hope for Bradford is gone.
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I'm crying with you.
Disappointing fo' sho but a closed door opens another one. Meaning even though we can't have Bradford, it's almost 100% guaranteed the Rams would be willing to trade down. And even if we don't trade up with them, we can still go to the Browns at 3 if RG3 is available.
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Old 02-24-2012, 07:57 PM   #1464
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What is the difference between Colt McCoy and Matt Flynn that would cause the Browns to go after him?

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“I’m a big Colt McCoy fan. If you look at what he did in high school, what he did at Texas — I don’t think he had a good supporting cast with the Browns.

“I don’t think he had wide receivers that helped him. I don’t think the running back situation helped him. The bottom line is he won 50 games in college which at that time was an all-time high.”

Griffin is bigger, faster and stronger than McCoy. Brandt’s evaluation of Griffin is very high. Unlike draft analysts working for ESPN and the NFL Network, Brandt is not using this forum to advise the Browns on how to use their draft picks.

“Colt is 6-foot-1,” Brandt said. “Maybe he’s not as big as you want him to be, but the guy’s won games. That’s what you have to see. The quarterback is so important in our game today that if you put enough good players around him he’s going to win
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What is the difference between Colt McCoy and Matt Flynn that would cause the Browns to go after him?
Only thing I can even think of is that they evaluate Flynn as the guy they want McCoy to become. But the truth is that McCoy is probably already better than Flynn, and if you move Flynn from the Packers offense to the Browns, you are going to condense Matt Flynn into NFL oblivion.
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Only thing I can even think of is that they evaluate Flynn as the guy they want McCoy to become. But the truth is that McCoy is probably already better than Flynn, and if you move Flynn from the Packers offense to the Browns, you are going to condense Matt Flynn into NFL oblivion.
And I'm sure a smart team FO that includes Mike Holmgren know this.
Heck, Holmgren practically evented the whole flipping the late round QB pump and dump scam that Reid and now McCarthy are duplicating.
Maybe scam is a bit harsh because some of the late round QBs that Holmgren developed became good NFL QBs.
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Old 02-25-2012, 03:33 AM   #1467
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And I'm sure a smart team FO that includes Mike Holmgren know this.
Heck, Holmgren practically evented the whole flipping the late round QB pump and dump scam that Reid and now McCarthy are duplicating.
Maybe scam is a bit harsh because some of the late round QBs that Holmgren developed became good NFL QBs.
I don't know if I'd call Cleveland a smart FO, I kind of lump them in with the Redskins in terms of general aptitude. Maybe that's just a perception problem. I guess they were smart enough to get McCoy in the third round.

I actually think scam is a good word because they proved that it's easy to mess with people's perception of quarterbacks. I would argue that generally speaking, the public -- and even a lot of pro talent evaluators -- don't really know what they are looking for in quarterbacks, so they fall back on meaningless stuff like intangibles and quarterback wins. And those that hold the magic beans simply are in the business of finding the right buyer. I'm looking at you, Rod Graves.
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Do you get a prize for being first to post on the 100th page of the thread GTripp?!
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Yes! Looking more and more likely like RG3 in DC.

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Somtimes i get the feeling that we may do a trade up for RGIII and make an offer to Manning. I know it sounds crazy but anything can happen.
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