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Old 01-09-2012, 05:28 PM   #226
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Perhaps, in the off-season he'll shoot himself in the leg while frequenting a strip joint...and then you can feel more....comfortable with him.....
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Old 01-09-2012, 05:34 PM   #227
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It is refreshing to see Tebow and rookie Cam Newton shut the mouths of all of those people that say a so-called "unconventional Qb" can not do well in the NFL. That the incredible NFL defenses will eat them alive. Pittsburgh defense looked lost.
Nobody thought Cam Newton would do as well as he did after going to a terrible Carolina team. I don't think anyone saw this coming. To see Cam Newton running plays from his college days and being productive. Then the former coach of Carolina Fox do the same thing with Tebow. Pittsburgh could not stop the old college Shotgun option play. Talented running Qb's can be successful if they are allowed to play to their strengths instead of forcing them to do what they can not.
I think the NFL FO's and the so-called experts need get off their ego trips and re-think how they judge talent. How many great QB's were tossed aside because they did not fit the Peyton Manning drop back passer mold? It is a shame.
Playing good defense and running the ball is not a lost art, especially in the playoffs. It will be very interesting to see the Pats vs. Broncos game. New England has no defense and weak running game. It will be interesting.
NFL FOs want drop back passers because thats what wins in the pros. When an unconventional (aka running) QB wins something they might reconsider but in the biggest copycat league of they all the FOs will stick with what they know works.
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Perhaps, in the off-season he'll shoot himself in the leg while frequenting a strip joint...and then you can feel more....comfortable with him.....
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It is refreshing to see Tebow and rookie Cam Newton shut the mouths of all of those people that say a so-called "unconventional Qb" can not do well in the NFL. That the incredible NFL defenses will eat them alive. Pittsburgh defense looked lost.
Nobody thought Cam Newton would do as well as he did after going to a terrible Carolina team. I don't think anyone saw this coming. To see Cam Newton running plays from his college days and being productive. Then the former coach of Carolina Fox do the same thing with Tebow. Pittsburgh could not stop the old college Shotgun option play. Talented running Qb's can be successful if they are allowed to play to their strengths instead of forcing them to do what they can not.
I think the NFL FO's and the so-called experts need get off their ego trips and re-think how they judge talent. How many great QB's were tossed aside because they did not fit the Peyton Manning drop back passer mold? It is a shame.
Playing good defense and running the ball is not a lost art, especially in the playoffs. It will be very interesting to see the Pats vs. Broncos game. New England has no defense and weak running game. It will be interesting.
Well, Cam Newton also proved that he could play (and dominate) the "conventional" aspects of QB play. So, he was able to "conform" to "tradition". His passing was actually one of his strengths, but not many folks saw it, I guess.

I think that GMs have been fairly willing to take mobile QBs high, but the spread option was simply not being employed in those times.

But yeah, Tebow, might start a complete paradigm shift on how to utilize the running game to set up the pass. It's the "new play action", so to speak. Good ol' running plays will still be used, but in tandem with these plays that involve the QBs running the ball in draws and option plays. If Tebow can improve his accuracy some more and get more comfortable, the league better watch out. I mean, the Denver O in its current state already forced the Steelers to stack the box and be forced to employ one or no safeties over the top in order to try and stop them, but they got burnt(23 points in regulation against the Steelers is pretty good no matter how you put it).
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I guess I should have rephrased my original post better. In no ways do I hate Tebow, just Tebow mania.
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This story is much better than the norm of catching player in hotel with hookers and a pile of blow. Refreshing! !!
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My last word on tebow for the next few days; Beat NE, then I'll be a huge believer.
You sound like the same people this year, saying first "quarterback a team to a win, then ill believe", then was "ok bring a team back back in the last 5 minutes of a game, then Ill believe", then "ok get the team into the playoffs, then ill believe". Last week it was " ok win a playoff game, then ill believe".

When you look back at the body of work in his truly first year of QB-ing its impressive. Does he need to improve throwing the ball, of course. But everything ive seen says he can do it by just what he has done this year alone. Hatters still gonna hatte no matter what.

Is it overkill by the media? Of course, when is it not these days?

Does Tebow get too much of the credit? The QB ALWAYS gets too much credit or too much grief when things are going good or bad. Its the nature of the position. The real hero of that game hands down was D. Thomas with 4 receptions for 204 yards, 1td and one hellava stiff arm.
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Denver won the toss so we are about to find out if god is a Broncos fan
Well , the Steelers do have a RB that seems to be on the side of our enemy's over seas Too bad poor steeler fans !!!
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Old 01-09-2012, 08:31 PM   #234
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Perhaps, in the off-season he'll shoot himself in the leg while frequenting a strip joint...and then you can feel more....comfortable with him.....
Exellent Hog !! Or maybe he can grope and molest a young lady like the other QB . Tebow has never said that god won the Broncos a game , he just has a strong belief / faith .
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so what , it was the only football on.
Since when does the NFL play two playoff games at the same time ???
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You sound like the same people this year, saying first "quarterback a team to a win, then ill believe", then was "ok bring a team back back in the last 5 minutes of a game, then Ill believe", then "ok get the team into the playoffs, then ill believe". Last week it was " ok win a playoff game, then ill believe".

When you look back at the body of work in his truly first year of QB-ing its impressive. Does he need to improve throwing the ball, of course. But everything ive seen says he can do it by just what he has done this year alone. Hatters still gonna hatte no matter what.

Is it overkill by the media? Of course, when is it not these days?

Does Tebow get too much of the credit? The QB ALWAYS gets too much credit or too much grief when things are going good or bad. Its the nature of the position. The real hero of that game hands down was D. Thomas with 4 receptions for 204 yards, 1td and one hellava stiff arm.
To Tebow's credit, he did give his props to Thomas.

But Thomas wouldn't be catching that 80 yard pass if they hadn't established the run so well...and Tebow was a part of making that running game go.
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Old 01-10-2012, 01:33 AM   #237
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I just feel like this 'magical run' that tebows having is going to come to an end sooner rather than later. NE exposed him in the two teams last meeting. Beat NE in the playoffs than I will believe that he is an NFL worthy starting QB. Show me that you can slide protections the right way, that you can audible to the right play, that you can make the good 20 yard out-route passes. Because you're going to have to do this against NE. Beat a quality team with little, to no injuries, then I'll become a full believer of TT being a good nfl starting QB. Like I said earlier I loved tebow when he was at Florida, always thought he's a great college QB, but NFL he has to single win me a game on his own. Keep in mind his Defense has be playing great, his OL is very young and good giving him lots of time to throw, and his WR's are one of the better cores in the league.
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"You just beat the Pittsburgh Steelers, but I will only believe in you if you run up numbers against the Patriots defense."
Makes perfect sense doesn't it??
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To Tebow's credit, he did give his props to Thomas.

But Thomas wouldn't be catching that 80 yard pass if they hadn't established the run so well...and Tebow was a part of making that running game go.
What game were you watching? LeBeau put 8 and 9 guys in the box escentially shutting down the running game and forcing Tebow to beat them by throwing, which he did. This is the first game he made a lot of different throws. Didn't just pull it down and run it, but extended the play with his legs looking to throw. McGahee rushed for 60. Tebow for 50. Not exactly establishing the run so well. I think Tebow showed a lot of improvement in this game especially considering it was a good Steelers defense. All you hatters goin' to hat no matter what Tebow does.
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