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Old 01-27-2005, 06:01 PM   #1
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I was wondering what do you guys think of us first of all trading downward for more picks and drafting Kevin Everett out of Miami. I was wondering when someone wwas going to mention him. Let me tell you this that he is taller, bigger and faster than his portege Kellen Winslow. I believe he will be a steal for us and fortunately for us he will be available in the 2nd round. He can catch, block, a surperb athlete and most importantly he's from the U. I believe with him at TE, Cooley at H-Back, Coles and hopefully the signing of Burress at the WR positions, Portis will have plenty of room to his thing with our defense we will no doubt be in the mix with philly. I forgot use other draft picks with get from trading downward and the trading of Gardner, McCants we should have plenty of youthful talent to guide us in the near future.
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:21 PM   #2
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I would vote against that just because Cooley played great for a rookie even though he was the H-back and Royal started to come along. Plus, I think our needs at DE, WR, and maybe CB depending on if Smoot stays are more important than another. If we pick up another TE I think we would be looking for more of a blocker then a reciever. Also, Everett was injury prone at Miami and thats why he didn't do the same things Winslow did.
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Old 01-27-2005, 06:25 PM   #3
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I Dont See The Point In Trading Down To Get A Player We Already Believe Will Be Available With Our 2nd Pick
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Old 01-27-2005, 07:26 PM   #4
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If the skins decide to draft a TE, the one and only choice should be Heath Miller from UVA. The guy is a beast, great hands and a very good blocker. :thumb: :thumb:
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Old 01-27-2005, 07:44 PM   #5
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If the skins decide to draft a TE, the one and only choice should be Heath Miller from UVA. The guy is a beast, great hands and a very good blocker. :thumb: :thumb:

Could not agree more but forget the TE, has anyone seen any of the senior bowl practices??? Marcus Spears is dominating that is who we should take. We might even be able to trade down to the mid teens early 20's to get him.
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Old 01-27-2005, 08:08 PM   #6
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I Dont See The Point In Trading Down To Get A Player We Already Believe Will Be Available With Our 2nd Pick
Unfortunately, we traded our #2 pick away.
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Miller IS a beast, but I think we could address more pressing needs with the #1 pick, which we obviously would have to use to nab him.
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Old 01-27-2005, 10:06 PM   #8
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I'm not sure if we should take a TE with a high pick. I know that coming into last season, with all the speculation that the Skins would take Kellen Winslow, I expected the TE to be a big part of the offense. Cooley got a lot of looks coming out of the backfield as the H-back, but as for Rasby and Royal, they didn't do a whole lot for the bulk fo the season. If that is the production that a TE is expected to get in Gibbs' system, then it would be foolish to spend a high draft choice on one, regardless of how good he may be. We have other needs that are more pressing.
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Old 01-27-2005, 10:45 PM   #9
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I was wondering what do you guys think of us first of all trading downward for more picks and drafting Kevin Everett out of Miami. I was wondering when someone wwas going to mention him. Let me tell you this that he is taller, bigger and faster than his portege Kellen Winslow. I believe he will be a steal for us and fortunately for us he will be available in the 2nd round. He can catch, block, a surperb athlete and most importantly he's from the U. I believe with him at TE, Cooley at H-Back, Coles and hopefully the signing of Burress at the WR positions, Portis will have plenty of room to his thing with our defense we will no doubt be in the mix with philly. I forgot use other draft picks with get from trading downward and the trading of Gardner, McCants we should have plenty of youthful talent to guide us in the near future.
wait a second...somethign is wrong here...I double checked and I didnt start this thread.

If you want to add speed at receiver, and get a TE, what we need to do is trade down in the first round, pick up a second rounder. Use our later first round pick ( late in the first round, so we would get a second, and mabye a third too) and draft Roscoe Parish out of the U. Hes blazing fast, could play special teams for us too. Whenever teams refused to kick teh ball to hester, they would put in parish. I think he ended up with as many special teams tds as he had. He can definitly stretch the field. And then we can use second round pick or the third to pick up everett. I dont think he is faster than winslow, but hes definitly a stud athlete. He got hurt this year so we could get him in the 3rd round. Do you even know if hes declared for the draft? I assumed he was acutally going to play for the canes again next year and increase his draft stock.

What I would rather have us do is draft antrel rolle. I really really really really dont want him going ot the cowboys, and theres a good chance they will take him. Even if smoot stays, nothign wrong with having a stud rookie to groom to replace springs, or if someone gets injured. hell he could play with taylor at safety, and that would just be the most pimp secondary in the nfl
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Old 01-27-2005, 11:00 PM   #10
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Roscoe is too small and certainly NOT what we need at receiver. I even prefer the guy (can't remember his name, sounds generic) out of Auburn over Rolle. Rolle has always looked like a Kobe/Shaq type bitching to the officials about calls all the time. Granted, I've had limited exposure to it, but the 2 or 3 Miami games I saw he complained. Rolle is great, and wouldn't be against it, I just think the Auburn guy played very well and would be a better fit.

Drafting a DB in the first seems a bit overkill since we have some pressing needs on the other side of the ball. I often feel a top 10 pick you should take the biggest talent there, but I don't feel Rolle will be that person. I'm sorry, skinsncanes, but Miami lost all their players last year worth a top 10 pick.
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Old 01-27-2005, 11:20 PM   #11
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rogers is the guy from auburn. I dont think he has near the potential that rolle does. rogers is solid but nothing special. I also agree with taking the top talent. rolle very well could be that when our pick comes ar ound.

Roscoe is basically Santanna Moss. Hes short, but has a vertical tahts over 40 inches. Coles is also short, but really fast. could be a good combo
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Old 01-27-2005, 11:57 PM   #12
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We need a big receiver. Coles is very fast and is excellent at getting yards after the catch, but he is not a viable threat to catch a 50-yd pass. His longest recpetions tend to be mid-range routes where he makes a guy miss and gets 20 or 25 yards YAC. If (when) Gardner goes, we need a big guy to replace him.
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Old 01-28-2005, 12:47 AM   #13
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I believe in drafting the best player available regardless of need. Having said that, if the talent is roughly equal among the top players available when we pick, to me we should go with a wide receiver.

Our offense is obviously the top priority in terms of improving the talent. We will improve with experience and Jansen's return on the offensive line. We are giving the keys to Ramsey as long as he keeps improving Gibbs says, and we can expect he will. We have a superb running back. We have Cooley. What is the glaring need?

To me it is speed at wide receiver. Speed first, and then also consistency and dependability. We have to stretch the field. We have to take advantage of Ramsey's arm strength. We have to get all the defenders out of the box to allow Clinton Portis to show what he is capable of. We got Portis but we didn't give him any opportunity to shine.

So for one thing, I would like to see Taylor Jacobs become a starter. He has speed and I think he's a natural. Let's give him a chance and see if he can rise to the occasion. But we need to bring in a wide receiver, and there are going to hopefully be some available - Williamson or Edwards are the kind that fit best with us.

I hope we don't go out and break the bank on an expensive free agent receiver. We don't have to find a guy who is going to be in the prime of his career next year because we have to think a little longer term I think. But if we can draft Williamson or Edwards I think they will have a very significant immediate impact.
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Old 01-28-2005, 01:01 PM   #14
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If you go TE you draft Heath Miler....from V.A.U

He's Todd Heap but bigger and a better blocker. The guy is the complete page at TE.
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Old 01-28-2005, 04:26 PM   #15
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I thought we didn't have a second round pick this year. Cooley 3rd for our second round this year with the saints. This guy would be an ideal pick if we didn't get plaxico, and drafted a wr in the first round but moved down for a second round. heath would probrally be gone if we moved down but i was hoping to draft a center or interior lineman in the second round.
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