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Dirtbag59 · 01-16-2012, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

2 defensive teams are left along with 2 QB driven ones. Sounds about right.

Giants, 49ers, Ravens, Patriots. 3 of those teams are coming in with hot QB's. Two of which are number one overall picks (don't know the last time we were able to say something like that). The Ravens are the only ones without a QB capable of carrying them right now and that could easily change in a moments notice.

GMScud · 01-16-2012, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Mattyk

2 defensive teams are left along with 2 QB driven ones. Sounds about right.

The Packers and Saints are nothing but offense. Sure the Packers have a few playmakers on the defensive side of the ball, but overall they're terrible. To allow 37 points in a home playoff game as a 15-1 defending champ.... Inexcusable. Same reason I don't see NE winning it all.

San Fran could win the whole thing. They really could. As much as a I want see a Harbaugh bowl, I think San Fran-NE would be a really fun match up.

Dirtbag59 · 01-16-2012, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by diehard

Maybe we've got his thing all wrong. Screw worrying about the QB situation and hope the Skins draft guys to bolster the defense even more.

With the exception of the Ravens the other 3 teams got to the Conference Championship with a lot of fire power on offense. The runt of the offensive litter this past week (which excludes the defensive minded Ravens) was the 49ers with 36 points (Giants 37, Bronco's 45).

Not saying defense isn't important but without offense you can't beat a team like the Saints, especially when they put up 32 points. I will say though that defense has been a big reason the Giants are playing next week. Shutting out the Falcons offense and then holding the Packers to 20 points.

Lotus · 01-16-2012, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

With the exception of the Ravens the other 3 teams got to the Conference Championship with a lot of fire power on offense. The runt of the offensive litter this past week (which excludes the defensive minded Ravens) was the 49ers with 36 points (Giants 37, Bronco's 45).

Not saying defense isn't important but without offense you can't beat a team like the Saints, especially when they put up 32 points. I will say though that defense has been a big reason the Giants are playing next week. Shutting out the Falcons offense and then holding the Packers to 20 points.

Right on. To this I would add that while Flacco may underachieve somewhat, he's not terrible. One could argue that this weekend shows that a good to elite QB is required for winning championships now.

We need at least a very good, and hopefully elite, QB.

irish · 01-16-2012, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

Media darlings Aaron Rogers and Drew Brees lost. Too bad! Ha!
It is a fact the NFL changed the rules of the game over the last 10 to 15 years years to increase passing. Allowing offensive lineman to hold, denying DB's any contact on receivers after 3.5 yards from scrimmage and all of the rules to protect Qb's and defenseless recievers . Now we have Qb's breaking records right and left and the media wants us to to believe it is all that these QB's are better than the ones that played before. Wrong. There are great players on defense in the NFL as well.
Well now there is justice. The teams that have bought into the NFL's attempt to make the NFL a "QB driven league" and are hyper dependent on throwing the ball are getting beat in the playoffs. Balanced teams that run the ball as many times as they pass and commit to running the ball are doing well. Atlanta that gave away most of their draft picks for ONE WR are at home. They thought they were one WR away from the promise land. NO.
NOW we already have media bitches today saying a Ravens vs. 49ers SB would be boring. Well Tom Terrific and the Pats are 0-2 against teams over .500 recors this year.
Ravens can beat them because they have a running game and a good defense. Which New England defense will show next weekend? The one that played a weak Tebow offense or the one that got slammed all season this year? I say the bad one.

The NFL isnt attempting to make the league QB driven, its already been done.

Dirtbag59 · 01-16-2012, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

The NFL isnt attempting to make the league QB driven, its already been done.

Yeah, I mean consider that Drew Brees took the number 1 defense in the league for 32 points. Usually thats more then enough to win.

SkinzWin · 01-16-2012, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Yeah, I mean consider that Drew Brees took the number 1 defense in the league for 32 points. Usually thats more then enough to win.

Well look at it this way. With Greg Williams gone, maybe they can get a decent defense and dominate the league with multiple super bowl wins the next few years.

SFREDSKIN · 01-16-2012, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by sportscurmudgeon

Your words are duly marked.

Are you willing to reveal which of the two reviled QBs on the current Skins' roster will be retained as the starter and who will lead them to the NFC Championship game?

Neither one, the skins could do what Cincy did. Could they not? Weren't you one who said Harbaugh was a college coach?

irish · 01-16-2012, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Yeah, I mean consider that Drew Brees took the number 1 defense in the league for 32 points. Usually thats more then enough to win.

It is. You gotta have some D to win a championship and it was obvious that NO & GB really had problems on D.

Defensewins · 01-16-2012, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

The NFL isnt attempting to make the league QB driven, its already been done.

..and all of the QB stars except Tom Brady are at home wondering why the their Superman cape the NFL gave them did not work this last weekend. Brady has an uphill battle to make it to the big game. Guess the NFL will have to change more rules so their designated money makers can make it next year. Ten guys on defense or only four men can rush the passer.

Dirtbag59 · 01-16-2012, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

..and all of the QB stars except Tom Brady are at home wondering why the their Superman cape the NFL gave them did not work this last weekend. Brady has an uphill battle to make it to the big game. Guess the NFL will have to change more rules so their designated money makers can make it next year. Ten guys on defense or only four men can rush the passer.

Right now I'm predicting a New England/San Francisco Super Bowl. Which Tom Brady will loose because he will be unable to summon the courage to beat his childhood team

Also keep in mind that right next to the Superman capes of Brees and Rodgers sits a Super Bowl ring.

irish · 01-16-2012, 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Defensewins

..and all of the QB stars except Tom Brady are at home wondering why the their Superman cape the NFL gave them did not work this last weekend. Brady has an uphill battle to make it to the big game. Guess the NFL will have to change more rules so their designated money makers can make it next year. Ten guys on defense or only four men can rush the passer.

I dont really know what you are talking about. Manning, Smith & Brady are all QB stars. Flacco isnt quite in their league. All the remaining teams also play good D.

The league had to open things up because fans just werent interested in watching 9-6 games. The NFL is more exciting now than it has ever been and they will never change the rules to go back to the boring old days.

Giantone · 01-16-2012, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtbag59

Shutting out the Falcons offense and then holding the Packers to 20 points.

May I point also just as mike Goalic(sp) did this morning that the 2 really bad calls in the Packer game kept the drive from ending so they would not have scored had those BS calls not been made to extend the drives.

Dirtbag59 · 01-16-2012, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

I dont really know what you are talking about. Manning, Smith & Brady are all QB stars. Flacco isnt quite in their league. All the remaining teams also play good D.

The league had to open things up because fans just werent interested in watching 9-6 games. The NFL is more exciting now than it has ever been and they will never change the rules to go back to the boring old days.

While I agree that generally more offense means more excitement and more viewers it's not always the case. In the case of the NFL opening up the game has worked. In the NBA it has all but failed, as one of the most frequent complaints about the NBA is that no one plays defense.

Lotus · 01-16-2012, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

I dont really know what you are talking about. Manning, Smith & Brady are all QB stars. Flacco isnt quite in their league. All the remaining teams also play good D.

The league had to open things up because fans just werent interested in watching 9-6 games. The NFL is more exciting now than it has ever been and they will never change the rules to go back to the boring old days.

I'm just one person but actually I prefer low-scoring battles.

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