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Old 01-12-2012, 04:59 AM   #76
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Super fan of this. I liked the job he did in TB...not sure what happened this past year but he is a young guy who players like and has some good leadership skills.

I like the guy but one of the knocks was that his players quit on him this year.
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Old 01-12-2012, 07:35 AM   #77
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Re: Raheem Morris to the Redskins

Different voice is needed sometimes. The secondary did struggle this year, but previous years I wouldnt put them as a weakness on the team. Rogers loss was much more of an impact than people thought along with injuries to PB (who?), Laron, OJ and the non development of Barnes all played a part. Is a talent infusion needed? Absolutely.

Morris is a no risk hire who can be nothing but a positive IMO.
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Old 01-12-2012, 08:45 AM   #78
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Re: Raheem Morris to the Redskins

^ Agreed
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Cry, those 12 wins include Wild Card, Divisional, and Conference Championships right.


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Old 01-12-2012, 09:18 AM   #80
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I like the guy but one of the knocks was that his players quit on him this year.
With Shanny in charge thats not happening. If anything, it should be a good situation for Morris to learn how to control a locker room. Any inkling Shanny detects of quitting would be addressed immediately.
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:23 AM   #81
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People always seem to forget Morris was an HC for three years (not two) and he finished 3-13 his first year.

But anyway, as has been mentioned Morris as a position coach should be just fine. His problem as a HC was when he tried to hard to discipline a player the team was like "this isn't you, and turned a deaf ear" so then he would do outlandish stuff like send Brian Price home at halftime for a false start (or whatever it was). Point is, he struggled to effectively cross the line from "hey, I'm your buddy let's work on some drills after practice" to "you're five minutes late to the film session, you're not starting on Sunday"
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:46 AM   #82
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What is funny is that I don't remember anyone during the season saying "the Redskins need to upgrade their secondary coach." Raheem Morris is a relatively big name for a position coach. But I also don't remember people saying, "the Redskins don't have enough 'name' coaches on the staff."

At no point next year will I be able to judge Raheem Morris on the quality of his work here. Neither will anyone else. I hope he does really well. But we'll probably never know what kind of effect he is having on the players' lives, without having that personal connection with the players.

If you find that analysis to be negative, you can just block me now.
Tripp, you're too young to remember the coaching staff for the Redskins back in the 80's. They had several head coaches during their Super Bowl years - mostly all of them position coaches. So, it is not uncommon for a head coach to accept a job as a position coach, especially if the money isn't bad.
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Old 01-12-2012, 09:59 AM   #83
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Whatever the case may be, Raheem Morris has had success as a coordinator as well as head coach. By any objective measure, this is a move with some upside. Does Morris need to tweak his coaching style, yeah probably. All coaches go through some kind of learning curve. Tom Coughlin, with his disciplinarian ways a few seasons ago, almost lost his locker room and the Giants were "doomed". The players quit, tuned him out, blah blah. Tom Coughlin adjusted his style and the Giants are consistently in the playoffs and have a Super Bowl ring to boot. We have such short memories sometimes.

To be clear, I'm not making any direct coaching comparisons between Raheem Morris and Tom Coughlin, but just because Morris' team supposedly quit on him last season is by no means the end of this guy or any reflection of how successful he can be in the long run.

The truth is our secondary hasn't been the same since Sean Taylor passed away. We've been replacing this guy and that guy for the past four years. I like the Morris move and hopefully it will encourage Laron Landry to give it another go and stay with the Redskins.

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Old 01-12-2012, 10:04 AM   #84
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Unless you're really close to the team & know the dynamics of the staff/player relationships, I find it hard to assess the impact of a position coach change. A coordinator change can be easily observed from the outside; you can see the change in scheme & overall performance. Position coaches by nature will have drastically different impacts from team to team based on how the coordinator runs that unit.

I actually disagree for the most part that the secondary was really disappointing. I thought they played decently this year. Of course I'd love to see some upgrades there, but that's the case for this team across the board. I don't think it is anywhere near our greatest need.

I think most of our sacks were coverage sacks. If we timed each sack this year I would bet that most passed the common threshold (whatever that is, I don't know) for how long a QB should hold the ball. Orakpo forced a lot of throws or scrambles, otherwise it was rare that pressure got to the qb early in his read, even when blitzing.
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:07 AM   #85
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Seems like a good hire. Not sure what there is to hate on, but some will always find something I guess.
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Unless you're really close to the team & know the dynamics of the staff/player relationships, I find it hard to assess the impact of a position coach change. A coordinator change can be easily observed from the outside; you can see the change in scheme & overall performance. Position coaches by nature will have drastically different impacts from team to team based on how the coordinator runs that unit.

I actually disagree for the most part that the secondary was really disappointing. I thought they played decently this year. Of course I'd love to see some upgrades there, but that's the case for this team across the board. I don't think it is anywhere near our greatest need.

I think most of our sacks were coverage sacks. If we timed each sack this year I would bet that most passed the common threshold (whatever that is, I don't know) for how long a QB should hold the ball. Orakpo forced a lot of throws or scrambles, otherwise it was rare that pressure got to the qb early in his read, even when blitzing.
This is the single least talked about story this season. Our secondary actually had a good year. Wasn't stellar, but time and time again a lot of our sacks attributed to good coverage. The numbers point to Rak and Kerrigan getting to the QB, but like yourself, I noticed on several occasions the QB just couldn't find an open receiver.
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:17 AM   #87
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Seems like a good hire. Not sure what there is to hate on, but some will always find something I guess.
Well...mix up the letters in Raheem Morris and you get I M ERROR SHAME...so there you have it
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:26 AM   #88
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Can't argue with logic.....
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Old 01-12-2012, 10:30 AM   #89
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Re: Raheem Morris to the Redskins

I havent had time to read every post so sorry if i repeat anything:


Hasslett had been considered a HC canidate to some degree (not my opinion). I would have thought that Morris could have gotten a better job had he waited for all the HC vacancies to be filled. So maybe because of his relationship with Allen and the possability of Hasslett leaving in the next couple of years Morris liked the potential for oppertunity in DC.

Id like to know if Hasslet was 100% behind this hiring. Morris seems like a easy going "players coach" but at the same time he has got to have a huge ego, hes was a NFL head coach after all. I hope there isnt a a too many Cheifs not enough Indians thing going on next year.

Early in the thread someone mentioned that this may signle the Redskins going after a DB early in the draft and i too think hiring Morris makes it more likely

I wonder if this means anything for Aqib Talib? He's in his last year of contract and depending on who Tampa hires he may very well be realeased or traded for nothing in the near future. Morris drafted him and i think fought to keep him when TB nearly released him last year.

I do think this soudns like a very good thing for the Redskins, and it almost seems like Morris wanted to be part of the organization. I love that Raheem Morris signed so quickly after being fired, it seems like the dude just really wants to get to work. Hes a 35 year old multi-millionaire and didnt even take 10 days off after being fired from one of the most stressful and time consuming jobs; NFL head coach.
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Seems like a good hire. Not sure what there is to hate on, but some will always find something I guess.

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