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View Poll Results: Big Game QB with 2 Minutes Left
Brady 9 12.50%
Elway 28 38.89%
Favre 5 6.94%
Montana 27 37.50%
Other 3 4.17%
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Old 01-28-2005, 05:56 PM   #16
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my list would montana, brady, leftwhich, elway, then others
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Old 01-28-2005, 06:10 PM   #17
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I went with Brady I believe when it's all said and done he will be considered the best of all time he is Montana like, with a better arm, the other's where probably more gifted physically but they didn't have the smart's that Montana, or Brady possess, Montana was a benefactor of the west coast offense and Bill Walsh, we have seen QB after QB become all pro's in that san fran system and do nothing else where, we have seen Bledsoe fail in New England, and Brady prosper. Brady is a special QB I would take him in any offensive situation on the field.
In the golden years of Montana when he went to Kansas City, I thought he had some decent success....I mean no Super bowl's but I believe he did get the Chiefs to the AFC Championship didn't he? Being that He played under Marty....we can all assume that wasn't a West Coast offense.
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Old 01-28-2005, 06:27 PM   #18
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I went with Brady I believe when it's all said and done he will be considered the best of all time he is Montana like, with a better arm, the other's where probably more gifted physically but they didn't have the smart's that Montana, or Brady possess, Montana was a benefactor of the west coast offense and Bill Walsh, we have seen QB after QB become all pro's in that san fran system and do nothing else where, we have seen Bledsoe fail in New England, and Brady prosper. Brady is a special QB I would take him in any offensive situation on the field.
So, do you think Charlie Weiss' impact will have a minimal impact on Tom Brady and the rest of the Pats' offense?
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Old 01-28-2005, 07:22 PM   #19
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oops

I worded that wrong. I meant to say will Charlie Weiss' departure have a minimal impact on Brady and the rest of the Pats' offense

But I think you answered the question Offiss, and you're right Brady's deep ball is one of the best in the league
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Old 01-28-2005, 11:08 PM   #20
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If I want a field general to lead the troops with 2:00, I want Montana. If I need a hero to take it on himself to win with 2:00, I go with Farve. I loved watching Elway too, and he's a field general, but my vote goes to Joe Montana
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Old 01-28-2005, 11:10 PM   #21
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I worded that wrong. I meant to say will Charlie Weiss' departure have a minimal impact on Brady and the rest of the Pats' offense

But I think you answered the question Offiss, and you're right Brady's deep ball is one of the best in the league
I think with Weiss and Romeo gone next season, we'll see where the genius of the Pats is. Is it really Bellicheck (remember the Browns) or did he surround himself with great coordinators.
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Old 01-28-2005, 11:11 PM   #22
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I'm going with coordinators. He's a good coach, but those coordinators are great, and I'm absolutely shocked they lasted as long as they did!
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Old 01-29-2005, 12:12 PM   #23
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I wouldn't underestimate the impact that Belichick's coordinators have had. I think both Weiss and Crennel are going to be quality head coaches and they both will be difficult to replace.

I think Belichick is a lot like Gibbs in how he surrounds himself with great coordinators and let's them run their respective units how they see fit. That's not to take anything away from Belichick, but I really think losing those guys next year is going to be a huge adjustment for the Patriots.
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Old 01-29-2005, 12:33 PM   #24
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I bet Crenell does better in Cleveland than Bellichek did.
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Old 01-30-2005, 01:15 AM   #25
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How could you leave Ramsey off that list? He gets my vote. Lol.
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Old 01-30-2005, 03:59 AM   #26
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Joe Montana. He was so cool that on the field for the last drive to beat the Bengals in the Super Bowl, he took the time to point out to a teammate where John Candy was sitting in the stands!
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Old 01-30-2005, 08:10 AM   #27
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Montana. The guy had ice water flowing through his veins. I have never seen a 5ft something QB so cool with guys diving at him. Protecting the QB was not the referee's job so much back then either.
Elway was great, but had that thin air at Mile high stadium that would suck the life out off the opposing d all game long. He had a little home field advantage that would show up at the end of the game.
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Old 01-30-2005, 08:18 AM   #28
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I would have to go with Brady. Not to take anything away from those other great Quarterbacks, but the defenses that Brady face these days and the prevent defense becoming extinct in many of the attack defenses currently being used.
How many games have the redskins lost due to the prevent, not very hard for a quarteback with any skills to pick that apart and drive down the field? TOO MANY!!
I love Gregg Williams philosophy of no prevent!!!
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Old 01-30-2005, 12:30 PM   #29
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I've hated elway but he was without a doubt the best qb with the ball and around 2 minutes to go and a few points down. Plus he did what he did without anywhere near the resources that Montana did and for that reason I'd put Brady 2nd. and all this talk about building a team, if I could start with one qb it'd have to be marino cuz there hasn't been a better pure pocket passer than him and it's kinda scary thinking about how many SB's Miami could have gone to and won if they had a top 10 rb. Plus I could be wrong but Marino amassed all of his numbers without a super star quality wr, cuz as good as clayton, duper, and irving were, they weren't top of the line kind of wrs.
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I've hated elway but he was without a doubt the best qb with the ball and around 2 minutes to go and a few points down. Plus he did what he did without anywhere near the resources that Montana did and for that reason I'd put Brady 2nd. and all this talk about building a team, if I could start with one qb it'd have to be marino cuz there hasn't been a better pure pocket passer than him and it's kinda scary thinking about how many SB's Miami could have gone to and won if they had a top 10 rb. Plus I could be wrong but Marino amassed all of his numbers without a super star quality wr, cuz as good as clayton, duper, and irving were, they weren't top of the line kind of wrs.
It' interesting that you mention Marino and now he never got a ring because he was lacking a top RB. What if Elway had never gotten Terrell Davis? I don't want to take anything away from Elway, but what if he didn't get those rings at the twilight of his career (largely thanks to TD). I think the gap between him and Marino and possibly even Jim Kelly would be a lot closer.

I'd take Montana. My sleeper pick would be Phil Simms (even though he was a rival, he could get it done)
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