I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

tryfuhl · 01-29-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by irish

Interesting idea and I think a good one. Kyle Shannahan was on the Andy Sheehan/Thom Loverro show in DC on Friday and he said there was no way the Skins were going to give away the farm to get a QB. He said QB was one of many holes the Skins need to fill. It sounds like he thinks the team really needs a few playmakers. His most telling stat to this point was the number of passes thrown by the QB and run in for a TD was zero.

Well.. we had two.. Helu screen/hurdle.. and Banks to Moss.. then again Banks isn't a "QB" and Helu isn't a WR... either way it's sad though

TenandSix:Unacceptable · 01-29-2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by GTripp0012

There are plenty of constants that aren't QB play within this organization. And really, the years of bad QB play over the last 20 years were pretty much (with obvious exception to 2004) contained to the Schottenheimer/Spurrier years, and now the Shanahan years. You've had your bad quarterbacks: Shuler, Wuerffel, that one Ramsey/Brunell season, Grossman, Beck. But it's not like the quarterback play has been consistently bad. That doesn't hold up under scrutiny. Turner and Gibbs/Zorn didn't have any issue solving the quarterback position. In fact, the coaches who did have trouble are infamous for their bad QB decisions in Washington.

Only two franchises in the last 20 hasn't endured a period of bad quarterback play: New England, who went right from Bledsoe to Brady (and even Brady had a lean year or two), and Green Bay, who went right from Favre to Rodgers. For 30 other teams, they've had the same kind of issue with quarterabcks the Redskins have had with quarterbacks. The Cowboys hardly went right from Aikman to Romo, they suffered through Chad Hutchinson, Quincy Carter, Vinny Testaverde, Drew Henson, and Bledsoe. Teams like the Lions and Bears have actually had it far worse.

Complaining about the QB situation is old and tiring. Sure, Shanahan gutted the roster and hasn't offered a viable solution. I get that. I have been critical of him for doing that. It's not like there aren't guys out there who can play the position well who can be acquired easily if Andrew Luck proves too elusive. It's obvious to me at least that there are much bigger issues with this organization that were causing us many losses even before Shanahan got here. Those issues have not been fixed.

Your opinion is usually spot on or at the very least plausible.

But you think saying the Redskins' quarterback situation has been abysmal the last two decades doesn't hold up under scrutiny?

Bwahahahahahaaa!

tryfuhl · 01-29-2012, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by theJBexperience

To get the rumor mill rolling again, I heard Bob Kravitz of The Indianapolis Star(the guy who did the Peyton Manning interview where he revealed he was unhappy w/ the Colts and paved the way for his release) on the Lebatard Show, and Kravitz gave the Skins a 25% chance of signing Peyton once he's released. He said DC was intriguing to Peyton because he remembers what Shanahan was able to with Elway late in his career, and of course, Peyton wants to go out on top with one last Super Bowl victory. Kravitz said there was an equal chance for us, the Cardinals, the Seahawks, and the Dolphins to land Peyton.

My math makes that 20%

tryfuhl · 01-29-2012, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by alpineONE

I have been "tuning in" to the Warpath for nearly 10+ years though not posting. This marks my first post.

I'm pretty excited about the prospect of picking up Bradford.

...I recall that Snyder was really keen on Bradford his draft year, and that the Skins brought him in to work him out...but as I recall he was simply ...out of reach.

Anybody else seem to remember how keen Snyder seemed to be about Bradford?

Welcome to the board.. well.. welcome to posting anyways

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 01-29-2012, 08:31 PM

Smoot.. speaking on Peyton Manning. If he is healthy would there be interest from the Redskins?

Could he be a guarded secret around the franchise?

SmootSmack · 01-29-2012, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by artmonkforhallofamein07

Smoot.. speaking on Peyton Manning. If he is healthy would there be interest from the Redskins?

Could he be a guarded secret around the franchise?

I would be inclined to say probably not. I know of two key decision makers who don't like the idea. That's not to say they can't be convinced otherwise but right now I'd say no

And welcome to the long time readers, first time posters

EARTHQUAKE2689 · 01-29-2012, 08:50 PM

Smoot question: I know Shanny doesn't draft RBs first round but how does he feel about Trent Richardson?

skinsfanthru&thru · 01-29-2012, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tryfuhl

My math makes that 20%

1 out of 4= 25%

What day exactly does the league office open for the new year and free agency and trades can occur?

SmootSmack · 01-29-2012, 09:10 PM

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Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689

Smoot question: I know Shanny doesn't draft RBs first round but how does he feel about Trent Richardson?

Havent heard anything

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 01-29-2012, 09:10 PM

Thanks. I could def see why the execs and others would not be enamored with Manning

Arm strength and his quick release could be long term issues with the recovery from the injury. We all know he has a great head for the game and an impressive work ethic, but can that overcome possible physical skill in decline as well as lingering injury issues with him. Remember this was the guy who never missed a game in his career, but that has all changed now. He may not even be cleared to play again. It also may be a possibility that people around the league don't believe he will ever be able to recover or have a deeper understanding than we do of what is really going on with his neck.

I wish him the best unless the Cowboys give him a shot then he can go to hell. lol

That would be a real kick in the nuts if he went on the play for the Boys and won another SB.. could totally see JJ signing him in a NY minute. I am somewhat surprised that they have not shown any interest, I could see them being a sleeper team in the whole PM deal.

NC_Skins · 01-29-2012, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by skinsfanthru&thru

1 out of 4= 25%

What day exactly does the league office open for the new year and free agency and trades can occur?

March 13th.

artmonkforhallofamein07 · 01-29-2012, 09:19 PM

Eli on Peyton: "He is going to do everything he can to get back." per half time interview done by Bob Costas during the Pro Bowl. In listening to the tone of Eli's voice and words spoken it does not sound like Peyton is any where near being ready to play or even close to a point where he would be able to. There was also some doubt in his voice in talking about Peyton ever being healthy enough to play again.

BTW : The pro bowl is such a joke. Talking heads on the radio keep talking about how to create more interest in the game, start by letting them actually play football. The game is a joke. There will never be interest in this game, it does not resemble a real NFL game and it never will. The sport is to violent and the players don't feel a need to go out there and try and fight each other.

Higskin · 01-29-2012, 09:19 PM

Honestly, if we ended up taking a RB with #6, I'd be ticked. Shanahan has said Royster reminds him of a young Terrell Davis and Helu is going to be special as well. I think we're set with those guys and HT.

SkinzWin · 01-29-2012, 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NYCSkin

Just a few questions to the forum re: the Bradford rumors...

Wasn't Jeff Fischer motivated (at least in some part) to take the Rams job because they had a perceived franchise QB in Sam Bradford? Now he wants to trade him and take a shot with a rookie QB (presumably RGIII)?

I imagine Gregg Williams would love to have Orakpo at his 4-3 end which is probably his best fit. But with Quinn and Long on their roster already--do they even need Orakpo?

I am not opposed to trading Orakpo who in my opinion is out of his natural position and seems to have plateaued. He seems to have less upside than Kerrigan. Rob Jackson could probably nearly equal Rak's production at this point. Certainly in those Geico commercials...

Leveraging Orakpo's trade value, who is part of the Skins strongest unit (LBs), to potentially improve the most critical position on the team seems like a smart and prudent strategy.

I am fairly confident the main reason was in Miami Fisher would have been taking orders from Jeff Ireland, where as in St. Louis he was given the keys to the city with personnel decisions.

SBXVII · 01-29-2012, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by CultBrennan59

How long until this thread intertwines with all the other threads of us getting RG3, Luck, Peyton being cut, we should draft ___, etc. etc. I'm already feeling another 45+ pager...

IDK. VTSkins brought something different to this ... "get QB or I'm turning in my fan card" comments. He mentions he'd like to see the Skins (yet again make a change after 2 yrs) go back to a 4-3, but funny someone would want that when our defense was not the problem last year and they even played better then the year before.

01-29-2012, 08:31 PM	#185
artmonkforhallofamein07 HST - "Hey Rube" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 3,908	Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense) Smoot.. speaking on Peyton Manning. If he is healthy would there be interest from the Redskins? Could he be a guarded secret around the franchise? __________________ Robert Griffin III welcome to the Washington Redskins! Year 1 - NFC EAST Champions at 10-6 Year 2 - Comeback player of the year??? 12-4??? Divisional round playoff game at home??? Superbowl??? 8-8 or worse??? We just have to wait impatiently to find out. http://site.fandangoracinginc.com/

01-29-2012, 08:50 PM	#187
EARTHQUAKE2689 You did WHAT?!? Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: In The Kitchen With Dyna. Age: 24 Posts: 11,010	Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense) Smoot question: I know Shanny doesn't draft RBs first round but how does he feel about Trent Richardson? __________________ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpp3ycMvQd0 This is why you need Mentos. To justify your questionable problem solving skills. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7geP5ev0VI Awesome isn't it.

01-29-2012, 09:10 PM	#190
artmonkforhallofamein07 HST - "Hey Rube" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 3,908	Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense) Thanks. I could def see why the execs and others would not be enamored with Manning Arm strength and his quick release could be long term issues with the recovery from the injury. We all know he has a great head for the game and an impressive work ethic, but can that overcome possible physical skill in decline as well as lingering injury issues with him. Remember this was the guy who never missed a game in his career, but that has all changed now. He may not even be cleared to play again. It also may be a possibility that people around the league don't believe he will ever be able to recover or have a deeper understanding than we do of what is really going on with his neck. I wish him the best unless the Cowboys give him a shot then he can go to hell. lol That would be a real kick in the nuts if he went on the play for the Boys and won another SB.. could totally see JJ signing him in a NY minute. I am somewhat surprised that they have not shown any interest, I could see them being a sleeper team in the whole PM deal. __________________ Robert Griffin III welcome to the Washington Redskins! Year 1 - NFC EAST Champions at 10-6 Year 2 - Comeback player of the year??? 12-4??? Divisional round playoff game at home??? Superbowl??? 8-8 or worse??? We just have to wait impatiently to find out. http://site.fandangoracinginc.com/

01-29-2012, 09:19 PM	#192
artmonkforhallofamein07 HST - "Hey Rube" Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Charleston , SC Posts: 3,908	Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense) Eli on Peyton: "He is going to do everything he can to get back." per half time interview done by Bob Costas during the Pro Bowl. In listening to the tone of Eli's voice and words spoken it does not sound like Peyton is any where near being ready to play or even close to a point where he would be able to. There was also some doubt in his voice in talking about Peyton ever being healthy enough to play again. BTW : The pro bowl is such a joke. Talking heads on the radio keep talking about how to create more interest in the game, start by letting them actually play football. The game is a joke. There will never be interest in this game, it does not resemble a real NFL game and it never will. The sport is to violent and the players don't feel a need to go out there and try and fight each other. __________________ Robert Griffin III welcome to the Washington Redskins! Year 1 - NFC EAST Champions at 10-6 Year 2 - Comeback player of the year??? 12-4??? Divisional round playoff game at home??? Superbowl??? 8-8 or worse??? We just have to wait impatiently to find out. http://site.fandangoracinginc.com/ Last edited by artmonkforhallofamein07; 01-29-2012 at 09:24 PM.

01-29-2012, 09:19 PM	#193
Higskin Camp Scrub Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Metro area Posts: 74	Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense) Honestly, if we ended up taking a RB with #6, I'd be ticked. Shanahan has said Royster reminds him of a young Terrell Davis and Helu is going to be special as well. I think we're set with those guys and HT. __________________ The future is now ~ George Allen

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