Warpath  

Home | Forums | Salary Cap Info | Shop | Donate | Stay Connected




Go Back   Warpath > Redskins Forums > Redskins Locker Room


I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

Redskins Locker Room


Closed Thread
 
LinkBack (7) Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 01-30-2012, 11:08 AM   #226
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,484
Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

Quote:
Originally Posted by EARTHQUAKE2689 View Post
No to Grossman. I don't even want him at FedEx field, let alone actually dressing for the game.
For the longest time I thought Grossman was pretty much a lock to return. In recent days though, I've gotten the impression they are ready to move on. Or at least let him test the market before making any decision.

In somewhat related news, new mock draft from National Football Post

Mock Draft: Version 2.0 | National Football Post

I still am not so sure they're going to trade up for RG3. But I know I'm in the minority on that
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline  

Advertisements
Old 01-30-2012, 11:29 AM   #227
Playmaker
 
freddyg12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,540
Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

I am no fan of Rexy, but I'm just thinking realistically about it, he's been here a couple years, knows the O well & shouldn't cost much. Of course if he gets a good deal elsewhere I'd be stunned if Allen got into any bidding war, they'd let him walk.

I wouldn't be hurt if he left w/out so much as an offer, but I wouldn't be upset if he were the backup.
freddyg12 is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 11:31 AM   #228
‎\m/
 
Mattyk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Age: 41
Posts: 79,442
Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

I think it's time to start fresh and move on from Rex, even as a backup.
__________________
Support The Warpath! | Warpath Shop
Mattyk is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 11:37 AM   #229
Playmaker
 
Alvin Walton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Holland, Michigan
Posts: 4,136
Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

I agree, our QB stable is quite stale. I'd like to have three new names after the draft. (UDFA's)
__________________
REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968
Alvin Walton is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 12:35 PM   #230
Playmaker
 
NYCskinfan82's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2008
Location: Queens, NYC
Age: 44
Posts: 3,306
Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

There comes a time when you need NEW QB's, that way the OLD QB's cant teach the NEW QB's bad habits, and that time might be now IMO.
NYCskinfan82 is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 12:52 PM   #231
Pro Bowl
 
skinsguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Greensboro, North Carolina
Posts: 6,378
Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

I think it's very possible the Colts surprise everybody by trading out of the #1 overall pick, pick up more draft picks, and grab someone like Orton. They have already gutted that whole franchise, so they know it's not going to be an overnight situation. They might be willing to grab a developmental QB in this draft, or maybe even wait until next year to grab a guy like Barkley - or both. So, I don't think it's a lock on Luck to the Colts at all. As matter of fact, this sounds more logical to me than the Colts simply drafting Andrew Luck at #1.

If that actually transpires, then I can see the possibilities of the Redskins doing one of two things - trading up to #2 to draft Andrew Luck, or trading the #6 for Sam Bradford. It all comes down to which one is more valuable - Luck or Bradford? And also the "new coach" factor. Did Coach Fisher decide to go to the Rams simply because Sam Bradford is already there, or did he go to the Rams because he knows there's a legitimate chance at dealing Sam Bradford away for Andrew Luck? I tend to think the latter. If the Rams can't get Luck or either get offered a better deal by keeping Sam Bradford, then Fisher still has a solid starting QB. So, either way, the Rams win. The Colts still win, because there's no way they're rebuilding that team within one year. But, their rebuild will be accelerated by grabbing more draft picks this year and next.

Yes, the more I'm thinking about this (and I apologize if I'm repeating anybody here) the more I'm thinking these rumors make more sense than what is floating around in the public media. All of us who say we're more realistic and level headed aren't seeing the fact that Mike Shanahan HAS to have a franchise quarterback this year or he's probably gone. Trading down to pick up a developmental guy or a guy that probably isn't ready to start in the NFL is taking a HUGE chance. If this was year one in Washington, that would be the best option. But, this is year three for Shanahan. He HAS to pull the trigger on getting HIS guy now. I think the Redskins have JUST ENOUGH on offense to make this work well enough for this year.
__________________
Not the same Skinsguy that posts on ES.
skinsguy is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 01:16 PM   #232
MVP
 
12thMan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: washington, D.C.
Posts: 11,453
Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

With Peyton Manning on his way out the door it really makes no sense for the Colts NOT to draft Andrew Luck with the number one pick. That is if they really believe that Luck is a once in a generation quarterback who could put the Colts back on a trajectory of becoming a winning franchise again.

The possibility of Manning not playing for Colts next season (if that indeed happens), I think, is probably Irsay's way of nudging him into retirement out of a genuine concern for his health -- probably moreso than his perceived inability to co-exist with Andrew Luck.
12thMan is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 01:26 PM   #233
Mann Up HOF!
 
Lotus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2008
Location: Hattiesburg, MS
Posts: 10,303
Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Alvin Walton View Post
I agree, our QB stable is quite stale. I'd like to have three new names after the draft. (UDFA's)
If our QB's are getting stale then we should quickly put them in the freezer with the dolls.
__________________
Rooting for the Dallas Cowboys should be recognized as a treatable mental disorder.
Lotus is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 01:40 PM   #234
Playmaker
 
Alvin Walton's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Holland, Michigan
Posts: 4,136
Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotus View Post
If our QB's are getting stale then we should quickly put them in the freezer with the dolls.
__________________
REDSKINS FAN SINCE 1968
Alvin Walton is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 01:42 PM   #235
Playmaker
 
SkinzWin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Richmond, VA
Posts: 2,679
Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfaninok View Post
The rams aren't giving Sam up it's why Fisher took that job
Fisher took the job because he has the keys to the city with personnel moves. He did not in Miami. He would have to answer to Jeff Ireland. Having a stable QB is just a plus. He could easily trade him, get draft picks and draft RG3 as his replacement.
__________________
Sean Taylor #21 a Redskin forever...

Draft winners, not stars.

Hail to the Redskins
Hail victory
Braves on the warpath
Block for RG3
SkinzWin is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 01:44 PM   #236
Franchise Player
 
skinsfan69's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: Arlington, VA.
Posts: 9,202
Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

Quote:
Originally Posted by SmootSmack View Post
For the longest time I thought Grossman was pretty much a lock to return. In recent days though, I've gotten the impression they are ready to move on. Or at least let him test the market before making any decision.

In somewhat related news, new mock draft from National Football Post

Mock Draft: Version 2.0 | National Football Post

I still am not so sure they're going to trade up for RG3. But I know I'm in the minority on that
If they let him walk then who comes in and starts day one? As sad as this sounds he gives us the best chance to win opening day 2012.
skinsfan69 is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 01:53 PM   #237
Uncle Phil
 
SmootSmack's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 44,484
Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

Quote:
Originally Posted by skinsfan69 View Post
If they let him walk then who comes in and starts day one? As sad as this sounds he gives us the best chance to win opening day 2012.
Well, are we looking to win opening day or still be playing in late January?

Hoyer to start, Foles/Cousins/Tannehill (maybe in that order) to finish is my current prediction. Shanahan recently said if he can't get his franchise guy this year he wants someone he feels he can develop into his franchise guy in 2-3 years. Which is why I think it will be one of those 3 rookies taken by the Redskins.

As for Hoyer, Flynn is getting all the publicity but I know a lot of team execs around the league think Hoyer has the better upside (though I believe he's just an RFA)
__________________
You're So Vain...You Probably Think This Sig Is About You
SmootSmack is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 02:03 PM   #238
The Starter
 
CrustyRedskin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: RatherbeinDC, TX
Posts: 2,398
Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

If thats the case and MS goes less than 9-7 its going to be hard to keep the Buzzards from circling.
__________________
I yearn......oh do I yearn, for a return to glory...
CrustyRedskin is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 02:19 PM   #239
MVP
 
Chico23231's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Richmond, VA
Age: 37
Posts: 10,602
Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotus View Post
If our QB's are getting stale then we should quickly put them in the freezer with the dolls.
classic. the freezer dolls were the most insane thing ive seen on the board
__________________
@RSherman_25 just make sure you stay in Seattle cause without that pass rush you are who we thought you were. 5th rd PK no speed good hands

DeAngelo Hall (@DeAngeloHall23) March 14, 2014
Chico23231 is offline  
Old 01-30-2012, 02:23 PM   #240
Pro Bowl
 
skinsguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Greensboro, North Carolina
Posts: 6,378
Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

Quote:
Originally Posted by 12thMan View Post
With Peyton Manning on his way out the door it really makes no sense for the Colts NOT to draft Andrew Luck with the number one pick. That is if they really believe that Luck is a once in a generation quarterback who could put the Colts back on a trajectory of becoming a winning franchise again.

The possibility of Manning not playing for Colts next season (if that indeed happens), I think, is probably Irsay's way of nudging him into retirement out of a genuine concern for his health -- probably moreso than his perceived inability to co-exist with Andrew Luck.
And that might be the way the Colts wants everybody to think - that there's no possible way they'd not draft Andrew Luck at #1. Don't get me wrong, I think it's likely the Colts still draft Andrew Luck, but I'm starting to believe it may not be their best option.
__________________
Not the same Skinsguy that posts on ES.
skinsguy is offline  
Closed Thread

Bookmarks

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:15 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site is not officially affiliated with the Washington Redskins or the NFL.
Page generated in 0.31042 seconds with 9 queries

Search Engine Friendly URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25