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Old 01-29-2012, 12:19 AM   #76
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Here's how I see it all playing out..

Matt Flynn to Miami
Andrew luck to colts
Sam stays in stl
Skins move up for RG3
Browns keep McCoy but also sign JC
jets trade Sanchez to Seahawks
Jets sign Manning
And in the big shocker!!!!! Brees stays
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Old 01-29-2012, 12:24 AM   #77
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Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

^ I agree with that entire post.

Also to the persons comment a page back, when smoot speaks, we listen.
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Old 01-29-2012, 12:26 AM   #78
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Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

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So we've got two big rumors at play here.

SC and I have researched this independently but in many ways our information does intersect So let's run through it:

Peyton Manning: Our own sources are telling us it's not an option. Which is what I've been saying. Where he ends up I don't know. I don't think it's so definitive that he won't return to Indy

Robert Griffin 3: Yes, we like him but all this talk of being enamored with him and looking to trade up to get him appears to only be a smokescreen. If he's there at 6, sure. But, as of right now, there's no interest in giving up picks to move up for him. At least, that's what I've heard. I actually am not even sure we'd take him if he's there at 6. But then, I thought the same about Landry

Mark Sanchez: Since I've brought him up before, let me just say that it looks less and less like an option, even if he's available

Matt Flynn: I haven't heard from anyone I trust that we're interested

Brian Hoyer: Patriots want to keep him, but we'd be interested for sure if he is available

Colt McCoy: Haven't heard his name mentioned even once to DC..which is why I keep saying he's the sleeper QB we're going to get

Ok, let's get to the real story here:

Andrew Luck/Sam Bradford: Well, these are the big guns. I'm hearing a lot more about a 3-way trade that gets us the #1 pick (Andrew Luck), gets the Colts #2
(RG3, plus picks) and gets the Rams #6 (plus picks and a player). I mean publically no one is talking about this at all, but I know of people inside the organization that are talking about it. Inside the Colts organization that is

SC is hearing a lot more about a 3-way trade that gets us Sam Bradford, the Rams #3 and picks and gets the Vikings #6, picks, and Orakpo. We've each heard variations of what the other has heard. On my end the Bradford talk has been a bit quiet in recent weeks as the Luck talk has heated up (incidentally who was it here that said Orton to the Colts? Because that's apparently very much a
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). Incidentally, no rumors I've heard involving Bradford coming to the Redskins include the Vikings. So if that happens, that's all SC.

Getting Luck would seem to be a bit more unattainable than getting Bradford, but it may not be. But bottom line: The Redskins are exhausting all possibilities to get either Luck or Bradford and expect to get one or the other. Also, they plan on adding two QBs this offseason (not Luck & Bradford, of course). And, I know you guys thought I was crazy when I brought it up this fall and when I didn't lock the thread someone else had started on the possibility, but we're shopping Orakpo in order to get our QB. Maybe other players as well, thought not Trent Williams. But especially Orakpo

And for those few of you who I have already talked to about this, it appears the # of picks may be a bit
less than originally mentioned for Luck. Actually considerably less, but it's still potentially a handful. But apparently nothing below our 2nd this year

And I realize the notion of being able to get Luck seems absurd but we wouldn't bring it up if we didn't think the sources suggesting it weren't reliable.

If you want to know if I think we'll actually land Luck or Bradford...I'd be surprised. (I don't even think we're drafting any QB in the first round for that matter). My own gut at this time says we're signing/trading for a veteran, and someone like Wilson or Keenum in the last rounds. I've heard Cousins is at the top of our 2nd tier, meaning after Luck/Bradford. So good prediction there Tripp. But Luck/Bradford are who I'm told is at the top of their board. ...And it's only January

Thanks for the good rumor info, should hold me for about 72 hours. Thanks for Acknowledgeing my Orton rumor, heard on a radio talkshow. When you can keep updating the rumors. I'm sure things will change even more after the Combine & pro days.
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Why not target Matt Schaub. With the success of Yates last year wouldn't that make Schaub exespendable? What would be his price tag?
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When the colts release manning, I see him wanting to play in Houston. With manning at qb, the texans would be the best team in the nfl.
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When the colts release manning, I see him wanting to play in Houston. With manning at qb, the texans would be the best team in the nfl.
And what of Schaub?
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Old 01-29-2012, 02:59 AM   #82
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Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

Colts get RGIII plus picks and the Rams get players plus picks. Are we the one giving up the picks to the Colts and Rams? I'm assuming we would give up picks to the Colts with the Colts working out a deal on picks with the Rams and we may send a player to the Rams.

I'd give up Orakpo in a heart beat for Bradford or Luck. I personaly would like Orakpo and a 2nd round pick for Bradford and with Luck the following.....Orakpo, swap of picks this year and next years 1st and a 3rd. (probably wouldn't get the deal done with either).

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Old 01-29-2012, 04:10 AM   #83
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Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

I want Luck so bad. Damn, I just can't see it happening tho.

I would honestly be happy with any package needed to get him.
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I'm afraid that whoever the Skins get will fail here.
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Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

Smoot & SC,

Thanks for letting us get a peek into the inner workings of franchise this offseason. Whether or not these potential trades are executed, it shows me that the Skins front office is headed in the right direction. We have been without a franchise signal caller since forever. When was theblast time a Skins QB was even selected to the Pro Bowl?

Our franchise is stuck in the mire of averageness until we get a young QB who we can build a dynasty with. MS knows QB's....I am all for having him go hard after the one(s) he and KS feel are elite.

For The Record: the couple of years that I have been browsing this site, Smoot has never done anything to make me doubt his intel. I would consider his intel beyond reproach.
(Except the Jevan Snead crush a couple years back)
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Smoot & SC,

Thanks for letting us get a peek into the inner workings of franchise this offseason. Whether or not these potential trades are executed, it shows me that the Skins front office is headed in the right direction. We have been without a franchise signal caller since forever. When was theblast time a Skins QB was even selected to the Pro Bowl?

Our franchise is stuck in the mire of averageness until we get a young QB who we can build a dynasty with. MS knows QB's....I am all for having him go hard after the one(s) he and KS feel are elite.

For The Record: the couple of years that I have been browsing this site, Smoot has never done anything to make me doubt his intel. I would consider his intel beyond reproach.
(Except the Jevan Snead crush a couple years back)
I have been a fan for 20 years and I don't even claim any qb we've had
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Re: I See QB Rumors (2012 QB Thread: The Sixth Sense)

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I have been a fan for 20 years and I don't even claim any qb we've had
The Tony Banks to Shane Matthews transition doesn't make you all tingly inside?

I'd love either scenario... Things will be much clearer in the coming weeks as Mannings fate is decided.

Question for SS, if Manning is released prior to his bonus date, which precedes the league year beginning, can teams speak to him/evaluate his status prior to free agency?
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On the other hand, what if we traded down and picked up Ben Jones, Mike Adams, Micheal Flyod, and Jamell Fleming. Then added a Qb through free agency?
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Smoot & SC,

Thanks for letting us get a peek into the inner workings of franchise this offseason. Whether or not these potential trades are executed, it shows me that the Skins front office is headed in the right direction. We have been without a franchise signal caller since forever. When was theblast time a Skins QB was even selected to the Pro Bowl?

Our franchise is stuck in the mire of averageness until we get a young QB who we can build a dynasty with. MS knows QB's....I am all for having him go hard after the one(s) he and KS feel are elite.

For The Record: the couple of years that I have been browsing this site, Smoot has never done anything to make me doubt his intel. I would consider his intel beyond reproach.
(Except the Jevan Snead crush a couple years back)
If I'm not mistaken, Brad Johnson was selected to the Pro Bowl during the '99 season. Before that, Gus Frerotte was selected to the Pro Bowl in '97.
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On the other hand, what if we traded down and picked up Ben Jones, Mike Adams, Micheal Flyod, and Jamell Fleming. Then added a Qb through free agency?
Interesting idea and I think a good one. Kyle Shannahan was on the Andy Sheehan/Thom Loverro show in DC on Friday and he said there was no way the Skins were going to give away the farm to get a QB. He said QB was one of many holes the Skins need to fill. It sounds like he thinks the team really needs a few playmakers. His most telling stat to this point was the number of passes thrown by the QB and run in for a TD was zero.

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