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Old 01-31-2012, 02:06 PM   #121
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I made out with Darrell "moose" Johnstons girlfriend back in the day, i did it for the love of the burgundy n gold . And let me tell ya she was some kinda fine, moose never found out as if he would of cared.
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:22 PM   #122
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At least Rogers was healthy (if I remember correctly). Honestly, the Redskins are pretty much in a position to do whatever the hell they want with Landry. And I don't see many options for him with that huge question mark on his health.

Excellent point! F him.
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:32 PM   #124
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This baffles me.. So a 32 year old Moss coming off of his worst season, a 31 year old Gaffney coming off his best season (and not likely to improve on it), Armstrong whose production was non existent, Stallworth who was released mid-season, Paul who was targeted a total of 5 times in 16 games and Hankerson who couldn't get on the active roster until Week 9 and then was lost to a season ending injury doesn't represent 'that big of a need'?

I think Hankerson will be fine and a starter.. Paul is likely more a ST player than a legitimate WR prospect.. Other than that, where's the optimism coming from about our current WR group? Outside of QB, this is our worst offensive unit and needs the most attention.
Was Paul even given a legit chance? Look around in our own division. Cruz was given a chance to play and look what he's become. Same with Miles Austin. What about Larant (sp) Robinson? If we can upgrade the QB position then I see no real need to get Bowe or Colston. Guys were getting open in our offense. We need to upgrade the Qb and o-line before wr.
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:32 PM   #125
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She is real tall. She's also a bit snooty. It was still memorable...for her.
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:38 PM   #126
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At least Rogers was healthy (if I remember correctly). Honestly, the Redskins are pretty much in a position to do whatever the hell they want with Landry. And I don't see many options for him with that huge question mark on his health.
Here's the thing with Landry: he was one of the most tradeable commodities on the team back in 2010, though it seemed like he was kept because Haslett felt like he could be the cornerstone of what he wanted to do with defense. Right now, Landry is damaged goods and we have to assume (despite Landry's assertions to the contrary) that this is no fault of the Redskins.

But to have your most valuable, tradeable player in 2010 become a player who walks elsewhere to become someone elses reclamation project in 2012? Just two years later? If things are really different with this front office, they will find a way (via a franchise tag or a two year contract offer) to keep Landry from hitting the market right? Because I know what Vinny would do in this situation: he'd let Landry sign elsewhere and then leak details of his attempted rehabilitation to selected media sources. I'm sure Shanahan is above that though.
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Old 01-31-2012, 02:49 PM   #127
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Here's the thing with Landry: he was one of the most tradeable commodities on the team back in 2010, though it seemed like he was kept because Haslett felt like he could be the cornerstone of what he wanted to do with defense. Right now, Landry is damaged goods and we have to assume (despite Landry's assertions to the contrary) that this is no fault of the Redskins.

But to have your most valuable, tradeable player in 2010 become a player who walks elsewhere to become someone elses reclamation project in 2012? Just two years later? If things are really different with this front office, they will find a way (via a franchise tag or a two year contract offer) to keep Landry from hitting the market right? Because I know what Vinny would do in this situation: he'd let Landry sign elsewhere and then leak details of his attempted rehabilitation to selected media sources. I'm sure Shanahan is above that though.
Don't you think it's time to turn the page with LL? He's had a half of one good season. The guy can't stay healthy and even when he is I certainly don't put him up there with the top safties.
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:02 PM   #128
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Disengage.
Turn the page.
Race down a river from the past.
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:03 PM   #129
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Bruce Willis' shirt brushed my shoulder once when I was in California for a trip. Also on that trip, I sat next to one of the contestants from 'Last Comic Standing'....I initially thought he was a vagrant.

I have also met Chuck Norris at a very young age... Your move, Lotus

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Old 01-31-2012, 03:10 PM   #130
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Don't you think it's time to turn the page with LL? He's had a half of one good season. The guy can't stay healthy and even when he is I certainly don't put him up there with the top safties.
It's hard to look at Landry on the coaches' tape and not think that he's going to be a star at some point. With that said, the only way to correctly value him is to treat him as damaged goods at this point.

The franchise tag in this case seems like a total no-brainer. I'll understand if the tag gets put on Fred Davis instead, but I guess I don't even see the reasoning for letting Landry go star elsewhere (provided health) instead of putting the franchise tag here and make him get his act together. If you are Landry, you look around and see the success that others have had after leaving Washington...well of course you want out. But the Redskins need to begin doing what is best for the Redskins.
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:16 PM   #131
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It's hard to look at Landry on the coaches' tape and not think that he's going to be a star at some point. With that said, the only way to correctly value him is to treat him as damaged goods at this point.

The franchise tag in this case seems like a total no-brainer. I'll understand if the tag gets put on Fred Davis instead, but I guess I don't even see the reasoning for letting Landry go star elsewhere (provided health) instead of putting the franchise tag here and make him get his act together. If you are Landry, you look around and see the success that others have had after leaving Washington...well of course you want out. But the Redskins need to begin doing what is best for the Redskins.
Landry's talent was never in question. He's a total knucklehead, though. He just ignored the recommendation of a renowned surgeon and refused surgery on that achilles tendon... the same thing he did last offseason, and we all see how that worked. I guess the franchise tag wouldn't be terrible to use on him since there's no long term issue.
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:16 PM   #132
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It's hard to look at Landry on the coaches' tape and not think that he's going to be a star at some point. With that said, the only way to correctly value him is to treat him as damaged goods at this point.

The franchise tag in this case seems like a total no-brainer. I'll understand if the tag gets put on Fred Davis instead, but I guess I don't even see the reasoning for letting Landry go star elsewhere (provided health) instead of putting the franchise tag here and make him get his act together. If you are Landry, you look around and see the success that others have had after leaving Washington...well of course you want out. But the Redskins need to begin doing what is best for the Redskins.
I say tag Davis and let Landry test the market. Landry is going into his 6th year and has really played dominant ball for half a season. I just don't think the guy is a student of the game. He doesn't work at his craft so to me he's never going to truly reach his potential.
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:23 PM   #133
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I say tag Davis and let Landry test the market. Landry is going into his 6th year and has really played dominant ball for half a season. I just don't think the guy is a student of the game. He doesn't work at his craft so to me he's never going to truly reach his potential.
Which, yeah, that's fine with me.

You don't have much of a defense without an effective Landry (though I would argue that Landry was easily our best safety last year, even considering that he played a half-season at 80%), and letting him walk for the $6 million of salary cap room he frees up sure seems like a gamble that we're going to get it done on offense this year. The head coach is an offensive guy, so he has the clout to make that gamble, I suppose.
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Old 01-31-2012, 03:25 PM   #134
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Landry's talent was never in question. He's a total knucklehead, though. He just ignored the recommendation of a renowned surgeon and refused surgery on that achilles tendon... the same thing he did last offseason, and we all see how that worked. I guess the franchise tag wouldn't be terrible to use on him since there's no long term issue.
My thing is even if you judge Landry on what is (a guy with a bad achillies), and not what can be, he's still worth about $5-$8 million a year and starts for every team.

You just don't want to tie up signing bonus money in an injury liability, just because of the way SB money affects the cap. Based on that, the tag is the best of both worlds: you get him below his market value, and you don't have a commitment to him beyond 2012.
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My thing is even if you judge Landry on what is (a guy with a bad achillies), and not what can be, he's still worth about $5-$8 million a year and starts for every team.

You just don't want to tie up signing bonus money in an injury liability, just because of the way SB money affects the cap. Based on that, the tag is the best of both worlds: you get him below his market value, and you don't have a commitment to him beyond 2012.
I agree. It's just frustrating because we all know his ceiling is a top 2 or 3 safety in the NFL- we've seen it. But he can't stay healthy... so now he has his first full normal offseason under Shanahan, he has a great opportunity to get fully healthy and have the surgery, and he just blows off the doctors orders.
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