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Old 02-03-2012, 11:26 AM   #46
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Peyton is my favorite non redskin player ever but i don't want him on the Redskins. I think it's only natural that having Peyton will completely take away the teams aggressiveness to getting a long term answer at QB. I can't see them doing any kind of trade up for a top rated rookie with Manning on the roster. they will draft some mid round QB and it will be another one of our long line of quick fix QB plans...
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Peyton is my favorite non redskin player ever but i don't want him on the Redskins. I think it's only natural that having Peyton will completely take away the teams aggressiveness to getting a long term answer at QB. I can't see them doing any kind of trade up for a top rated rookie with Manning on the roster. they will draft some mid round QB and it will be another one of our long line of quick fix QB plans...
Hypothetically, what if you could sign Peyton and hold onto your #6 overall pick and take Tannehill there. Or even trade down some and take Tannehill (or whatever QB you prefer) and add more picks.

In other words, what's worth more Luck/Bradford/RG3 starting now and a significant loss of draft picks or Tannehill (or whoever) starting in 2 years with all your draft picks and maybe more?
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Hypothetically, what if you could sign Peyton and hold onto your #6 overall pick and take Tannehill there. Or even trade down some and take Tannehill (or whatever QB you prefer) and add more picks.

In other words, what's worth more Luck/Bradford/RG3 starting now and a significant loss of draft picks or Tannehill (or whoever) starting in 2 years with all your draft picks and maybe more?
If it were Manning/Tannehill I would probably be okay. but I don't believe they would take Tannehill at #6 if manning is on the roster and if they don't do that then getting him becomes very difficult.

Whats worth more IMO is Luck/Bradford/RG3 and less picks because those 3 QB's have the highest percentage chance of becoming franchise QB's then anyone else available. This is a QB league now...the teams with the best QB's win consistently and everyone else is hovering in that 6 to 10 win range and hoping for some good luck to have a decent season. And I do not want to risk the entire Shanny/Allen era on turning some mid round QB prospect into that franchise QB because that just doesn't happen very often. A smart approach to free agency can replace the high draft picks we have to sacrifice to get our QB...but what free agency can't do is get us a young franchise QB.
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Hypothetically, what if you could sign Peyton and hold onto your #6 overall pick and take Tannehill there. Or even trade down some and take Tannehill (or whatever QB you prefer) and add more picks.

In other words, what's worth more Luck/Bradford/RG3 starting now and a significant loss of draft picks or Tannehill (or whoever) starting in 2 years with all your draft picks and maybe more?
I would take the Manning/Tannehill + draft picks all day, every day over trading bunches of picks for Luck/RGIII.


Reason is, if Tannehill flops, you still have a solid team from the draft picks you get and can bring in another QB. IF RGIII or Luck flops, you are left with a void from the talent you could have had if you didn't trade the farm for them.
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Rebutting an ESPN report from Thursday evening, owner Jim Irsay tweeted early Friday that the Colts have not medically cleared Peyton Manning (neck surgeries) to play football in 2012.
It's clearer now than ever that Manning's camp fed ESPN's Chris Mortensen the news of his supposed medical clearance. "Peyton has not passed our physical," says Irsay, "nor has he been cleared to play for the Colts. Team statement coming on Friday." Colts doctors are reportedly worried about the nerves in Manning's neck and triceps. While Peyton is notifying interested teams he's healthy, the Colts still need the medical excuse to decline his $28M bonus.

Colts counter-punch to team Manning
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Hypothetically, what if you could sign Peyton and hold onto your #6 overall pick and take Tannehill there. Or even trade down some and take Tannehill (or whatever QB you prefer) and add more picks.

In other words, what's worth more Luck/Bradford/RG3 starting now and a significant loss of draft picks or Tannehill (or whoever) starting in 2 years with all your draft picks and maybe more?
Yes, Yes, and a big fat yes. I would love to have a healthy PM lead this team for 2-3 years while you have a top prospect learning on the bench over trading away two or three top draft spots in the next couple of years drafts.

To above poster, no I DO NOT WANT ROMO if the Cowboys took PM. If he can't succeed there I doubt he would be able to here.
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Rebutting an ESPN report from Thursday evening, owner Jim Irsay tweeted early Friday that the Colts have not medically cleared Peyton Manning (neck surgeries) to play football in 2012.
It's clearer now than ever that Manning's camp fed ESPN's Chris Mortensen the news of his supposed medical clearance. "Peyton has not passed our physical," says Irsay, "nor has he been cleared to play for the Colts. Team statement coming on Friday." Colts doctors are reportedly worried about the nerves in Manning's neck and triceps. While Peyton is notifying interested teams he's healthy, the Colts still need the medical excuse to decline his $28M bonus.

Colts counter-punch to team Manning
Irsay is going about this situation all wrong. He is looking like a real piece of work.
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Irsay is going about this situation all wrong. He is looking like a real piece of work.
Agreed...Irsay is coming off like a fool in this. He's trying to win the public sentiment when he should really just keep his mouth shut.
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Agreed...Irsay is coming off like a fool in this. He's trying to win the public sentiment when he should really just keep his mouth shut.
This tweet follows his statement last week to keep this situation in house. Well there is a big difference in the annoucement that PM is cleared to resume his football career. IE meaning his neck is good and the fusion has worked, but there are still some lingering issues of healing in his arm. Then when PM came out and said he didn't recognize the Colts org any more.

This tweet that came from Irsay was a direct shot at PM's camp. Seems much more childish and "politicing" then the comments from PM not so long ago.
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Old 02-03-2012, 12:52 PM   #56
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So some doctor cleared him? Did the people in the NFL actually clear him? I have to say Manning is one of the most media savy athletes ever... and I think this is his way of forcing the owners hand. Also couldn't they wait a week til the Super Bowl is over with? Talk about raining on your lil' brothers parade.
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I also believe the Colts have made their minds up already to move forward without Peyton. The owner cleaned house and has his new coaching staff ready to start the Andrew Luck era. As far as the Redskins QB situation if Peyton is healthy we need to take a long look at him. The big question is which team would Peyton prefer to play for and how much would it cost to sign him. I rather take a healthy Peyton than give up multiple draft picks for RGIII who has never taken a NFL snap. The odds are RGIII will never be as good as Peyton Manning. The problem for us is we pick a #6 spot in the draft and only 2 QB's are worthy of a top 5 pick. We all know Luck is off the board at pick #1 so thus leaving only RGIII to at least 4 teams ( Browns, Redskins, Dolphins,Seahawks) looking for a franchise QB. The Rams will use every trick in the book to get 1 of those teams to bid against each other to raise the stock in the #2 pick. I think we have to many areas of need to give up so many picks to move up to pick#2. its a huge risk.

How about this if the Browns pick RGIII , would the Redskins be interested in giving up a 2nd or 3rd for Colt McCoy? I would try to get him for a 3rd pick and we could use a later rd pick on maybe Russell Wilson to compete for the starting job. We could use our 1st rd pick on a O-lineman, CB, or trade back for more picks.
He is NOT healthy, I guarantee you that. No one that has had 3 neck fusion surgeries in 10 months is healthy at this point or IMO even by the beginning of next season. And I will bet everything I own on the fact that he will never play at as high a level as he has in the past IF he even ever plays again at all. I know everyone is enamored with the fact that we could get him for cash instead of picks, but I just think it is not the direction we should be going.

Let's say this happens:

1) We sign Peyton Manning and draft Tannehill in the draft.
2) Peyton starts game 1 of the season, takes a big hit and is knocked out for the season and possibly career because of his previous history with neck issues.
3) Tannehill or possible other QB on the roster starts? Tannehill would not be ready, and a back up would most likely not be able to sustain what is necessary to win many games.

Where are we now? Out a lot of cash and not in a position to have a viable QB leading our team once again. And I'm not saying I am only for trading up and giving away picks for a top level QB, I am just saying I'm not for taking a risk on Manning.
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We sure have a lot of doctors in the house eh?

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The Dr. who performed his surgery cleared him, of course he still has to keep rehabbing to get the strength back in his arm, but regardless it sounds like he's on the right track.
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SkinzWin, you painted the exact scenario that has to be running through Bruce Allen's mind right now. Think about it, do the Redskins really want another high profile free agent that "might not" work out or the flags were there and they took the plunge anyway?

I doubt it.

This PR battle between Irsay and Manning has to be turning off potential suitors.
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Except for MS, why does Manning want to come here?
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