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Old 02-03-2012, 09:54 PM   #46
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Love it...but with Luck I wouldn't even care who the bridge QB is because I would hope he would start from day 1.
Agreed. But we have more leverage in a trade up for Luck if we have a viable alternative on the roster. Moreover, Orton makes a good spot starter in case of unLucky injury.
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Orton = Grossman in my book. Gets drafted by the Bears and doesn't turn out to be a franchise QB, gets traded to the Bronco's and does not do very well turns out he's not a franchise QB otherwise they would not have traded him to KC where amazingly enough turns out he was not their answer to having a franchise QB.

I don't t see the novelty and hope the coaching staff does not either.
That's what I'm saying. Orton is basically the same guy has Grossman. Just don't see any reason why we'd sign him.
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Old 02-03-2012, 09:58 PM   #48
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Orton would be an excellent backup. Luck and orton is basically a dream scenario.
Luck is not coming here. I have no idea why anyone is even talking about that option. He's 99.9% going to Indy.
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Old 02-03-2012, 10:31 PM   #49
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Luck is not coming here. I have no idea why anyone is even talking about that option. He's 99.9% going to Indy.
More like 100%. Manning is done in Indy and they would the stupidest team in the planet to trade or not draft Luck.
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Old 02-03-2012, 11:17 PM   #50
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Always said it's a longshot. But it's not 100%. It's not necessarily going to be any easier to trade to #2 than #1
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Orton = Grossman in my book. Gets drafted by the Bears and doesn't turn out to be a franchise QB, gets traded to the Bronco's and does not do very well turns out he's not a franchise QB otherwise they would not have traded him to KC where amazingly enough turns out he was not their answer to having a franchise QB.

I don't t see the novelty and hope the coaching staff does not either.
Might want to check his numbers in Denver, he played well in '09 and '10 before Tebow-mania took over. And he wasn't traded to KC, they picked him up on waivers a few weeks after Cassel got hurt. He's not a franchise QB but he's a solid vet. We could do a lot worse, like Grossman/Beck.
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Old 02-04-2012, 06:25 AM   #52
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signing orton makes sense in that we'll have a "starter" so it'll be harder to fleece us in a trade, and we can send him with the picks to trade up and make the other team feel better about having SOMEONE that can play QB if they need one.

as part of jockeying for a top 2 pick, this is a good idea... as far as getting him as our 2012 starter... that would be awful.
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Kyle Orton wins games. I am not sure how I feel about it yet, but he is like the Rodney Dangerfield of NFL QB's. He is accurate, has a pretty good arm, and is really looking to make a mark as a starting QB. If we sign him, I wouldn't be upset. That would give us the starting QB we want, plus we can use the picks to build talent. We could still land a QB in the 3rd round.
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That's what I'm saying. Orton is basically the same guy has Grossman. Just don't see any reason why we'd sign him.
i wouldn't say that, i think he is one slight notch above grossman, his overall numbers are slightly better and his td to int ratio is worlds better. grossman has 56 td's to 60 int's for his career, thats just god awful, it's hard to say anyone else is that bad. that said i don't want orton here, the last time he was in fedex he got benched for chris simms if i'm not mistaken, talk about terrible qb's.
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i wouldn't say that, i think he is one slight notch above grossman, his overall numbers are slightly better and his td to int ratio is worlds better. grossman has 56 td's to 60 int's for his career, thats just god awful, it's hard to say anyone else is that bad. that said i don't want orton here, the last time he was in fedex he got benched for chris simms if i'm not mistaken, talk about terrible qb's.
Yeah, because he got hurt. I remember him burning us on a bomb to Marshall and we probably lose that game if he didn't get hurt.

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Orton is way better than grossman or beck.
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Always said it's a longshot. But it's not 100%. It's not necessarily going to be any easier to trade to #2 than #1
Exactly! That is why I don't think either scenario plays out for Washington. Plus, I think we are smart enough to realize that we need the picks more than we need to trade up.
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Old 02-04-2012, 11:26 AM   #59
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Orton would be an excellent backup. Luck and orton is basically a dream scenario.
You don't dream very high do you?

Come on folks, Orton? His stats might be marginally better but he's definitly not franchise material. You guys will blast me for wanting Flynn who has not been let go, cut, fired, or anything and has done well in the limited time given, but you are all over the Orton idea? WTF?

I feel like I'm watching "In Living Color" again with the "Lowered Expectations." lol.

Brees would be a great pick up but I just can't see the Saints letting him get away. P.Manning would be nice "IF" he can play or "IF" he can be on page to helping to coach the Rookie's until he can play, but it sounds like he's possessive of his job while in Indy and not giving the second stringer practice time so he might not be into coaching until he learns he can't play ever again or he decides to stop playing.

I'd do whatever it takes to get Flynn and offer him the starting job. I'd then trade TW (a 1st round Pick that has lived up to that his billing) to the Rams because they need a LT and Orakpo (another 1st round pick who's better playing in a 4-3) for their #2 pick. I'd then draft Blackmon with the #2, and trade back the #6 for more picks and take either Weeden (because Weeden and Blackmon have a connection) or I'd take one of the other QB's... Tannehill, Cousins, Wilson. Wilson has suprised me and might would think hard about taking him. This way we have 2 new QB's one being a Vet one a Rookie and could let Grossman and Beck go. Plus we have the top WR in the draft to compliment Hankerson.
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Orton is way better than grossman or beck.
I believe your stretching the truth a bit. But I will say almost anyone is better then Grossman and Beck.
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