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Old 02-04-2012, 11:37 AM   #61
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Kyle Orton wins games. I am not sure how I feel about it yet, but he is like the Rodney Dangerfield of NFL QB's. He is accurate, has a pretty good arm, and is really looking to make a mark as a starting QB. If we sign him, I wouldn't be upset. That would give us the starting QB we want, plus we can use the picks to build talent. We could still land a QB in the 3rd round.
I'd rather try and go after a vet that's at least got some potential. If Henne is let go I say we try him. At least he's got potential. We know what Orton is. Game manager, may not turn it over at the rate Grossman does but also is kinda just a Mr. Checkdown. This team isn't going to the Super Bowl next year. Still need another year or two of rebuilding.
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:03 PM   #62
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You don't dream very high do you?

Come on folks, Orton? His stats might be marginally better but he's definitly not franchise material. You guys will blast me for wanting Flynn who has not been let go, cut, fired, or anything and has done well in the limited time given, but you are all over the Orton idea? WTF?

I feel like I'm watching "In Living Color" again with the "Lowered Expectations." lol.

Brees would be a great pick up but I just can't see the Saints letting him get away. P.Manning would be nice "IF" he can play or "IF" he can be on page to helping to coach the Rookie's until he can play, but it sounds like he's possessive of his job while in Indy and not giving the second stringer practice time so he might not be into coaching until he learns he can't play ever again or he decides to stop playing.

I'd do whatever it takes to get Flynn and offer him the starting job. I'd then trade TW (a 1st round Pick that has lived up to that his billing) to the Rams because they need a LT and Orakpo (another 1st round pick who's better playing in a 4-3) for their #2 pick. I'd then draft Blackmon with the #2, and trade back the #6 for more picks and take either Weeden (because Weeden and Blackmon have a connection) or I'd take one of the other QB's... Tannehill, Cousins, Wilson. Wilson has suprised me and might would think hard about taking him. This way we have 2 new QB's one being a Vet one a Rookie and could let Grossman and Beck go. Plus we have the top WR in the draft to compliment Hankerson.
Nobody here is calling Orton a franchise QB or any sort of long term answer. We're talking about him as a veteran backup.

Orton is certainly much more proven than Flynn, and he would come a lot cheaper.
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:06 PM   #63
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Whatever we do I just hope that the guy that's drafted is inserted as the starter day one. Let him make mistakes and live with it. I only want to see the back up play unless it's injury related. I know Shanahan is going to give us some BS about "whoever gives us the best chance to win" ...but I really don't want to hear that nonsense anymore. By the time this team's ready to be a contender he's going to retire.
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Old 02-04-2012, 12:11 PM   #64
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I'd do whatever it takes to get Flynn and offer him the starting job. I'd then trade TW (a 1st round Pick that has lived up to that his billing) to the Rams because they need a LT and Orakpo (another 1st round pick who's better playing in a 4-3) for their #2 pick. I'd then draft Blackmon with the #2, and trade back the #6 for more picks and take either Weeden (because Weeden and Blackmon have a connection) or I'd take one of the other QB's... Tannehill, Cousins, Wilson. Wilson has suprised me and might would think hard about taking him. This way we have 2 new QB's one being a Vet one a Rookie and could let Grossman and Beck go. Plus we have the top WR in the draft to compliment Hankerson.
If you trade Williams and Orakpo, then draft draft Blackmon, then a QB in 2nd round pick. How do you replace Williams and Orakpo? Willie Smith showed he can play but I do not think we have seen enough from him to replace Williams. Rob Jackson to replace Orakpo? This scenario is something I will never do.
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If you trade Williams and Orakpo, then draft draft Blackmon, then a QB in 2nd round pick. How do you replace Williams and Orakpo? Willie Smith showed he can play but I do not think we have seen enough from him to replace Williams. Rob Jackson to replace Orakpo? This scenario is something I will never do.
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If you trade Williams and Orakpo, then draft draft Blackmon, then a QB in 2nd round pick. How do you replace Williams and Orakpo? Willie Smith showed he can play but I do not think we have seen enough from him to replace Williams. Rob Jackson to replace Orakpo? This scenario is something I will never do.
Orakpo is the only issue. I think Smith did admirably with being thrown in with little eperience. Given another offseason I think he would be that much better. Plus he did admirably agains decent talent. The OL almost played better in those last 4 games vs. the middle of the year.
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I see some of you mention that if we wanted Orton, why didn't we put in a claim for him when he was released mid-season. Well, we did look into acquiring him BEFORE the season started so it was obvious we were interested. However, acquiring Orton mid-season would not have helped us last season. I would have rather stayed with Rex than have Orton come in the middle of the season and try to run the offense.


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Nobody here is calling Orton a franchise QB or any sort of long term answer. We're talking about him as a veteran backup.

I would love to have Orton as a backup, but the reality is he isn't going to go anywhere that he doesn't have a shot at starting. Also, you aren't going to pay a backup 5-6 mil per year either which is the type of salary he'll command.
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I see some of you mention that if we wanted Orton, why didn't we put in a claim for him when he was released mid-season. Well, we did look into acquiring him BEFORE the season started so it was obvious we were interested. However, acquiring Orton mid-season would not have helped us last season. I would have rather stayed with Rex than have Orton come in the middle of the season and try to run the offense.





I would love to have Orton as a backup, but the reality is he isn't going to go anywhere that he doesn't have a shot at starting. Also, you aren't going to pay a backup 5-6 mil per year either which is the type of salary he'll command.
1. No one is bringing in Orton as a starter
2. No one is paying him 5-6 mil a year.
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What about sign Vince Young then draft Brandon Weeden or Russell Wilson later in the draft?
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Orakpo is the only issue. I think Smith did admirably with being thrown in with little eperience. Given another offseason I think he would be that much better. Plus he did admirably agains decent talent. The OL almost played better in those last 4 games vs. the middle of the year.
Yes he did, but we would need Smith to overtake RT when Brown gets injured or does not perform well this season. Or we could flip Williams to RT if Smith continues to perform better, whatever that works. We would only cripple our o-line if we trade away our best o-line player. We have a great duo in Orakpo and Kerrigan and I am pretty sure we can expect more out from them in next season, why destroy it?
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1. No one is bringing in Orton as a starter
2. No one is paying him 5-6 mil a year.
1. our team is the redskins so any thing is possible, we brought in Rex to be our starter.
2. the money thing he probably could get 2-3 million a year.
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1. our team is the redskins so any thing is possible, we brought in Rex to be our starter.
2. the money thing he probably could get 2-3 million a year.
No, we brought Rex in to back up McNabb and then got stuck in a corner when DMac5 didn't work out.
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What about sign Vince Young then draft Brandon Weeden or Russell Wilson later in the draft?
That can't be serious.
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