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Old 02-04-2012, 06:05 PM   #76
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No, we brought Rex in to back up McNabb and then got stuck in a corner when DMac5 didn't work out.
we went into last year with Grossman and Beck. that is horrible either way and they went with Grossman to start the season. I would understand this if we would have drafted a QB last year but we didnt.
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:29 PM   #77
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No, we brought Rex in to back up McNabb and then got stuck in a corner when DMac5 didn't work out.
There were other options availble through draft, FA and trade.

We didn't draft a QB anywhere in the entire draft; not even a late round flier on a developmental guy like TJ Yates or Tyrod Taylor.

We didn't trade for a QB.

Then we signed Rex Grossman.
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:37 PM   #78
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There were other options availble through draft, FA and trade.

We didn't draft a QB anywhere in the entire draft; not even a late round flier on a developmental guy like TJ Yates or Tyrod Taylor.

We didn't trade for a QB.

Then we signed Rex Grossman.
I agree. And I wish we had availed ourselves of other options. I was just responding to a statement which said that we brought Wrecks in specifically to start.
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Old 02-04-2012, 08:50 PM   #79
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I think the only reason the FO didn't bring in someone new is that they new there was no reason to waste resources on a QB when there was not much in terms of talent to work with yet. Add in the lockout, and that is why we saw what we did last year with the QB position.

Orton is better than any QB currently on the Skins, and is an upgrade over Grossman hands down.
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I agree. And I wish we had availed ourselves of other options. I was just responding to a statement which said that we brought Wrecks in specifically to start.
You and me both bro, and yeah I saw the post you responded to and I think its correct to state that Rex was brought in to start last year *shrugs*

btw-love the 'wrecks' for rex, i gotta borrow that
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I think the only reason the FO didn't bring in someone new is that they new there was no reason to waste resources on a QB when there was not much in terms of talent to work with yet. Add in the lockout, and that is why we saw what we did last year with the QB position.
No offense but this sounds like a rationalization of a poor decision.*shrugs*

You can say there wasn't much talent but the talent that we did have was held back to substandard level of QB play.

Every team was in the same boat last offseason yet other teams made better choices at the QB.

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Orton is better than any QB currently on the Skins, and is an upgrade over Grossman hands down.
And Orton was available last offseason and available again on the waiver wire.
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I agree. And I wish we had availed ourselves of other options. I was just responding to a statement which said that we brought Wrecks in specifically to start.
You see it that way, I see it as when the signed him last year after the lock out he was going to be the starter.
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You see it that way, I see it as when the signed him last year after the lock out he was going to be the starter.
Ok, fair enough. I was talking about our acquisition of Wrecks in the first place because of the difference between "bring in" and "re-sign."
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I am not an Orton fan. I could have lived with him going into last year BUT my meaning was somewhat of a rationalization for the FO. At the same time I can see why they would not want to give away a draft pick for KO. Also I can see why they would not want to add him in the middle of the year after he was waived.

I could also see Orton not being in the plans and this is just some rumor. You never know. I also can't imagine Orton would be plan A.
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I hope the hell not, rather keep Grossman then.
I second this thought. Why sign K.Orton when he would spend the off season learning a new offense. Might as well resign Rex and draft a QB in the 2nd rd if we cannot draft RGIII. I know Grossman isnt the long time solution but at least he can run our offense until our Rookie gets a grasp on the offense. Orton may take care of the ball more but that doesnt mean he would produce more wins if he became our starter. Rather keep Rex until we have a better option.
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Might want to check his numbers in Denver, he played well in '09 and '10 before Tebow-mania took over. And he wasn't traded to KC, they picked him up on waivers a few weeks after Cassel got hurt. He's not a franchise QB but he's a solid vet. We could do a lot worse, like Grossman/Beck.
Orton was released because he was going to become a free agent at seasons end and the Broncos new he was not going to be resigned. The Redskins did not want to pick up Orton on waivers because he had a 8 million dollar contract for the season. So why would we sign him off waivers when he will be a free agent at the end of the season. We can get him for alot less now if we think he is better than Rex. I say they are even but Rex has more time in our offense which gives him the edge.
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You don't dream very high do you?

Come on folks, Orton? His stats might be marginally better but he's definitly not franchise material. You guys will blast me for wanting Flynn who has not been let go, cut, fired, or anything and has done well in the limited time given, but you are all over the Orton idea? WTF?

I feel like I'm watching "In Living Color" again with the "Lowered Expectations." lol.

Brees would be a great pick up but I just can't see the Saints letting him get away. P.Manning would be nice "IF" he can play or "IF" he can be on page to helping to coach the Rookie's until he can play, but it sounds like he's possessive of his job while in Indy and not giving the second stringer practice time so he might not be into coaching until he learns he can't play ever again or he decides to stop playing.

I'd do whatever it takes to get Flynn and offer him the starting job. I'd then trade TW (a 1st round Pick that has lived up to that his billing) to the Rams because they need a LT and Orakpo (another 1st round pick who's better playing in a 4-3) for their #2 pick. I'd then draft Blackmon with the #2, and trade back the #6 for more picks and take either Weeden (because Weeden and Blackmon have a connection) or I'd take one of the other QB's... Tannehill, Cousins, Wilson. Wilson has suprised me and might would think hard about taking him. This way we have 2 new QB's one being a Vet one a Rookie and could let Grossman and Beck go. Plus we have the top WR in the draft to compliment Hankerson.
Only on Madden Franchise could this ever happen. Keep dreaming bro
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I rather bring back Jason Campbell then sign K.Orton. I dont see either one of these signings happening for the Redskins.
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Yeah, because he got hurt. I remember him burning us on a bomb to Marshall and we probably lose that game if he didn't get hurt.

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I had forgotten this one until you mentioned it...good call Matty.
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I second this thought. Why sign K.Orton when he would spend the off season learning a new offense. Might as well resign Rex and draft a QB in the 2nd rd if we cannot draft RGIII. I know Grossman isnt the long time solution but at least he can run our offense until our Rookie gets a grasp on the offense. Orton may take care of the ball more but that doesnt mean he would produce more wins if he became our starter. Rather keep Rex until we have a better option.
Exactly. If Orton was our starter we're still a 5 win team.
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