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Old 02-09-2012, 04:02 PM   #226
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I don't think he has to run his own system, but you do have to give him a lot of freedom and control within the offense. And the system would have to be tweaked to fit his style.
I dont think it matters what the system is - peyton will learn it. you just have to let him audible. He changes almost every play at the line of scrimage and thas one of the keys to his success. and i think allowing that would be a HUGE challenge for control-freak kyle. (Then again, maybe kyle is only a control-freak because he's never had a QB he could trust to correctly and consistently read the defenses and adjust the play to one with the best chance of success)

i'd love to sign peyton and bring in garcon. pairing him up with atleast one target he's already familiar with would also be key. it takes a while for a QB and WRs to develop a rapport and have that "feel" for knowing what eachother will do in certain situations.

heck, if we brought in saturday, garcon, and peyton, AND kyle let peyton do his thing - we'd immdiately be a 12 win team.

I'm all about building for the long term, but acquiring these FREE AGENTS would allow us to WIN while we continue to develop younger talent for the future.

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Old 02-09-2012, 04:08 PM   #227
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Not sure... if serious...
Long ago, in the storied historical archives of the Warpath, a young brave came on and said that he had approached the great warrior coach Joe Gibbs with a question. That question was so awesome that with reverence it is known only by its number. Question 3 may it forever soar amongst the eagles.

But what was Question 3? The world may never know.
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:14 PM   #228
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Long ago, in the storied historical archives of the Warpath, a young brave came on and said that he had approached the great warrior coach Joe Gibbs with a question. That question was so awesome that with reverence it is known only by its number. Question 3 may it forever soar amongst the eagles.

But what was Question 3? The world may never know.
Hahahaha. I'm afraid to even ask, but what were questions 1 and 2?
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Welp, no need to talk about my favorite kind of pie I guess.
I was going to say, your posts are too well-written. Carry on.
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The thing I want to know about Manning is how many times could we possibly fail? We're due to hit on a big splash one of these days.


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Old 02-09-2012, 04:35 PM   #232
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UPDATE: Interesting tidbit to tack on to the rumors linking the Washington Redskins to Robert Griffin III. During an appearance on Bill Simmons' "BS Report" podcast, Michael Lombardi of the NFL Network indicated that not only is Griffin all but assured of being taken in one of the Top 2 spots in the NFL Draft, but that there's a particular reason why a trade between the Rams (currently at No. 2) and the Redskins may be a logical outcome.

"Mike Shanahan and Jeff Fisher are very close," Lombardi revealed. "If there's trade to be made, it'll happen between those two." (H/T to Evan Silva of Rotoworld for the quote).

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It's not a certainty that the Redskins will aggressively target quarterbacks this offseason, but the growing consensus is that this will be the case. Some believe that they'll be amongst the teams most vigorously courting Peyton Manning; others think the Shanaclan's preference will be for Matt Flynn. Finally, there's the option of going for reigning Heisman Trophy winner Robert Griffin III.

Acquiring Griffin will most likely require trading up from the Skins' current position at No. 6 -- either to No. 2 or No. 3 overall, depending upon what the other QB-needy teams do in free agency. If the Cleveland Browns, Miami Dolphins and Seattle Seahawks are all satisfied with their situation following free agency, maybe Washington won't have to trade up at all.

In all likelihood, however, Shanahan will need to surrender some serious draft capital in order to secure Griffin. Should he pull the trigger? ESPN NFC East blogger Dan Graziano and Football Scientist KC Joyner consider the question:
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Old 02-09-2012, 05:15 PM   #233
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Dilfer's ok. Tim Hasselbeck on the other hand

And I think the whole Kyle is a control freak thing is ridiculous. So is his dad, but it worked fine with him letting Elway call plays, ditto Walsh and Montana. And many others.
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Not sure if Smoot has anything, but my guy said the whole QB discussion depended on "question three," but the Shanny's could decide on the answer.
He who would cross the Bridge of Death
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These questions three
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Question 1: What is your name?
Question 2: What is your quest?
Question 3: What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
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Dilfer's ok. Tim Hasselbeck on the other hand

And I think the whole Kyle is a control freak thing is ridiculous. So is his dad, but it worked fine with him letting Elway call plays, ditto Walsh and Montana. And many others.
Yeah I don't get this whole perception that Florio and others have created, that "Kyle wants to run that offense like a little kid with a joystick on the sideline." I thought all offensive coordinators wanted the quarterback to run their offense. I guess the video game reference is a diss on Kyle's age.
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Question 1: What is your name?
Question 2: What is your quest?
Question 3: What is the air-speed velocity of an unladen swallow?
Listen. In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right?
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If Jim Irsay is a man who speaks the truth, and its really NOT about the money, then there must be some kind of problem if the Colts let Manning walk. I've said before that risk tolerance is a part of the equation in Manning's return to football. Doctors are like regular people, their opinions vary. I suspect that is going to be the case (is the case) with PM's health, his ability to recover his passing skills, and his risk tolerance for another injury which could be debilitating. Perhaps Irsay just does not want to see PM go through all that as a Colt; perhaps he thinks its time for the Colts to move forward and not look back.

Against that backdrop, I just dont see how it is a good idea for Washington to give up a portion of the team's remaining salary cap space to bring in an aging, injured PM to play QB. Some seem to think we can get him for minimal salary with some incentive package attached. I really doubt that possibility. And even if it works, and PM earns a stack of incentive money, Redskins have still incurred the alternative costs. Money that could have been spent on WRs, safety, offensive linemen, retention of Fletcher at ILB, and a host of other needs.

The Manning plan is a bad one for the Redskins because it diverts us from the rebuilding effort already in motion! We should not stop mid-stream!

For once, I want the Redskins to be sensible, reasonable, measured, thoughtful, and SMART in their approach. Forget about Manning, go with the plan in motion. Stay the course; fans have endured two years of the process to rebuild the football team; keep moving forward with the good plan.

I know we need somebody to play QB; FA QBs are available; sign one. Draft a QB to develop, RGIII or Tannehill, or another of the Shanahans' choice. But dont revert to the pre-Shanahan days of frivolous, ill-advised FA signings. Stay strong and be smart; rebuild the football team the right way!

Why signing Kyle Orton would make sense for the Redskins - The Insider - The Washington Post
#1-Ok, you say the team needs to .... stay the course? how do you not know that the course is to pick up PM?

#2- You make a huge arguement as to why the team should not take a Vet QB, and elude to the fact that the course is drafting a young QB.

#3- Then you mention signing Orton. Orton? Not that I'm wanting it but we might as well stick with Grossman since the production level would not be that much better.

Personally I'd sign PM. He will be a Free Agent just like Orton. I'd have an option for the Skins added to the contract that if PM is not healthy and ready to play in the 1st game then the team can cut him with out the team owing him a ton of money. Plus whoever is Rookie would get playing time until PM is 100% ready which could mean the developement your looking for. Plus depending on PM's health come the first game maybe the Rookie starts the season until PM is ready.
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Listen. In order to maintain air-speed velocity, a swallow needs to beat its wings forty-three times every second, right?
.... Unless it's an African Swallow.
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